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The long waited Iwagumi scaping...

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Jack, Apr 3, 2016.

  1. Jack

    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Thanks to you keith, the fresh start really turned out great.
    Have plans to plant HC as the carpet and wanted to add some red plants to add little more colour to the scape instead of just keeping it flat only with the green carpet. But wondering whether to have them on the background or within the centre of these stones ( little off the centre infact).
    And most of the red plants are background plants ( some grow tall and some have huge leaves). I prefer some red plants of some smaller leaves.
     

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  2. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    One big warning re red plants if not done correctly will look like a big bright red traffic light in a green field.

    Also remember your rocks are the feature of your Aquascape not red plants the correct mix of leaf size and texture I guarantee will look far superior.

    Now it Less is More and More is Less. Most important of all is KIS Keep It Simple.

    What ever you do, do not make a green garden salad in other words a bit of every thing.

    This is why its so important to have a planting plan.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    In my opinion there is still a better hard scape to be found. The stones are so uniformly placed it doesn't look natural to me.

    The substrate also appears too flat, but this could be the angle of the photo.

    sent from tapatalk on my phone so auto correct and other errors are bound to happen
     
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    Also you keep sticking your largest stone in the back, put it along the midline for a better appearance.

    sent from tapatalk on my phone so auto correct and other errors are bound to happen
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree there are possibly 100's of variations to try but for a beginner Jack has done very well and most important of all he is very happy and learning at the same time.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Jack I like your reply.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Keith,
    Regarding the planting, I will be certainly using only two different kinds of plants, one is for sure the HC and just hunting for the other one in the centre or the background area... And as u said, will decide between bright red, dark red and green Actually need some help to sort out that confusion.

    Shadowmac,
    I have moved the centre stone to the midline and broke the continuity by the moving the rocks little front and back. Didn't change the overall setup since my eyes got glued to it. Pls do let me know what can be done further...[​IMG]

    This is the angle of the slope which is there right now from the front to back.. And I will be adding powder sand on top throughout for me to plant the HC with little ease...
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  9. keithgh

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    What you have done is open it up a little which is an improvement.

    I could have offered you several alternatives but I guarantee you would get more confused than you were.

    Do not look over the point once its planted every thing will look totally different as at the moment all you have is substrate and a few very well positioned rocks.

    As the tank develops you will see things and wonder why did I do that when this will look better.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  10. Jack

    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    That's right keith, I am already trying to imagine as much as possible how the scape will be with its age. For sure I will have to tweak some minor adjustments like adjusting the Rock height to suit the plant height and so on..
    Initially I thought the first scape looked good after some adjustments, then came your ideas, which gave a dramatic look and thirdly shadowmac tweaked some more which is getting more interesting.. Infact now I am restless to try more... Like the ones below...
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    Keep your present alignment of stones...just tweek the angles. point the ones on the right towards front corner and the ones on the left towards the front left corner. Try to avoid lining them up in a line.

    I do think the one stone in the front right is starting to crowd the font space a little.

    When Amano started he went through lots of arrangements before he was ever happy. OR just plant it! and have some fun with your tank. I'd like to see something tall around your stones. My choice would be blyxxa around the big one...like the stones are exploding out from a field of blyxxa surrounded by HC.
     
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    You could tweak those rocks a whisker here and a whisker there and it may or may not improve.

    I you do not stop tweaking you will never start your planting.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  13. Jack

    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Sure Keith, just wanted to see the possibilities. Am done tweaking now. Just waiting for the plants.


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    That is the best news yet otherwise you would never stop tweaking.

    Keith :cat::cat:
     
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    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Eagerly awaiting to head back home to continue where I left. Made the mistake of delay in ordering the plants, couldn't get it in time before I left for work.


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    Keep us updated with the plant list please.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    As of now, only two plants. One will be HC and around those stones I have thought to use any one of the plants or a combination of two of the below,

    1. Staurogyne-porto-velho
    2. Sagittaria Subulata
    3. Pogostemon helferi

    Any suggestions pls. Basically I am trying to KIS and have some plant with little longer leaves just around the stones which also should not have a high growth rate or spread rate to spoil the carpet. And as I had thought earlier, adding red plants like Ludwiga palustris around the rocks might also turn out well, since anyway this tank would have high lighting for HC which will help in keeping the red plants red...
     
  18. keithgh

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    The main feature of your tank is the rocks if you go past the KIS with the plants it will just look like another rocky planted tank.

    I think you will find red plants would be out of place with your Aquascape.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Jack Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I too have the same fear Keith, so I have thought to just go with HC alone in the beginning and will see....


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  20. keithgh

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    You can easy change later, keep us updated please.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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