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Straight to ADA Aquasoil

Discussion in 'Substrate' started by John N., Sep 28, 2010.

  1. John N.

    John N. Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm curious if you went with ADA Aquasoil right from the start or did you try other substrates first before finally deciding ADA Aquasoil was the best for you.

    -John N.
     

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  2. John N.

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    For me, I tried all sorts of substrates from Seachem Flourite, Caribsea Eco Complete, Red Sea Florabase, DIY Substrate (pool filter sand), and then ADA Aquasoil. They are all good but for me, I would have gone straight to ADA Aquasoil if I were to do it all over again.

    -John N.
     
  3. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Yep, I was lucky to find ASW in the early days and I found out that ADA Aquasoil is maybe the best you can do to your plants - so I went straight with ADA Aquasoil.
    After a couple of years I switched to Ebi Gold Waterplantsoil, because somebody offered me some for free to give it a try. Next I want to try Olver Knott Nature Soil.

    In one of my projects, full ADA tank I will of course use Aquasoils with all benefits and disadvantages it comes with 8)
     
  4. Enrico Serena

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    I went straight to Ada aqua soil (Amazonia II) for my first serious "Nature aquarium", with Power Sand special of course.

    Ciao
     
  5. doubleott05

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    order of what i tried before i got to aqua soil

    plain med size gravel (bit smaller than flourite)
    eco complete mixed with gravel 50/50
    eco complete %100
    floura base by red sea
    flourite
    finally aqua soil


    order of best results
    aqua soil
    plain gravel
    gravel eco mix
    eco complete
    floura base
    flourite
     
  6. Shadow

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    I try other substrate/gravel before try ADA soil. So far ADA seems to be the best. I never have problem planting any plants in ADA soil.
     
  7. wearsbunnyslippers

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    i still have flourite running in my main tank.

    i have two bags of ada aquasoil amazonia, that i imported from the uk. they the first bags in south africa, and i almost dont want to use them, coz once i use them they will be gone.. it may seem kind of stoopid but i also want to do justice to the first bags of ada soil in south africa so i want to make sure the scape i use them on will be awesome. i am moving in december so will break down all my tanks again, and then maybe in jauary i will setup something ada-esque...

    flourite still works for me though.
     
  8. Jurijs mit JS

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    you can keep a small amount of it unused to show others
     
  9. John N.

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    I think we all concur that ADA Aquasoil is the best...but for those of you who are using ADA Aquasoil "powder" are you getting the same/similar results? In fact is anyone using the powder variety these days?

    -John N.
     
  10. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Never used Aquasoils powder but others brands powder type work for me as well as normal type
     
  11. Shadow

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    I use powder just to sprinkle on top when I wan to grow HC. I was thinking HC roots is short so powder should help them somehow but honestly not really sure whether it help or not :p
     
  12. viktorlantos

    viktorlantos Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Yup i got the same result with Amazonia Powder. HC grows better in that with it's tiny roots. You can use it as a top level in part of your tank or i can imagine this thing in a nano as a standalone soil too.

    The only thing which is harder there that the small soil pieces fly easier because of the flow. Or fall down easier from a slope.
     
  13. saintly

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    I think guys, you could possibly look at columbo flora base. way cheaper, litt;e ammonia, no crumbling, no clouding and contains tons of nutrients.

    i've used it in 3 or 4 tanks, and produces the same outcome as ADA, but cheaper.
     
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    i'm going to use columbo flora base for my new nano. all i've used before is sand and gravel, so this should be better.
     
  15. viktorlantos

    viktorlantos Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Cheers Mark,
    Sorry i have to say that but Colombo is not cheaper in the eurozone than ADA. This maybe different in the UK i bet.

    The rest of the stuff like less ammonia still something to consider.
     
  16. viktorlantos

    viktorlantos Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Additionally to the price issue. Most of the Japanese soils are not cheaper than ADA. So price is not really and issue when you shoot for a better soil.

    We investigated many soils which is available in Europe including ADA Aquasoil, Nature Soil, Colombo, Volcamia Green, Shirakura, GEX. Their pricing is very close to each other. Some of them are expensive than ADA.

    I bet the reason is simple. They produced by the same patented techonogy in Japan probably by Hirose. Using different "recipies" and additives, maybe different source for clay to. But at the end their pricing become the same. They have to travel by sea just like any other japanese soils. Expenses adds up the same because of that.

    So unless there's an alternative way their pricing will not be different that much that we can say one of them is way cheaper then the other. We should focus on its properties and select the best which fit our needs.
     
  17. Jurijs mit JS

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    Prices in Germany

    Colombo 33,50EUR (10l bag) (+ shipping from uk)
    Aquasoil 32,00 EUR (9l bag)
    Ebi Gold 35,00 EUR (10l bag)
    Naturesoil 40,00 EUR (10l bag)

    really looking forward for some less expansive products <):)
     
  18. Shadow

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    interesting, Aquasoil seems to be the cheapest
     
  19. Xavier

    Xavier ASW Sponsor

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    Soils that don't leech ammonia typically tend to perform worse than Aquasoil. Honestly the ammonia portion of the Aquasoil is tremendously useful - plant health aside, it allows you to 'fishless' cycle a tank for just about any bioload possible.
     
  20. saintly

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    i'm amazed at the difference in price abroad.

    in the uk

    ADA aquasoil 9L...£36.00
    columbo flora base 10L...£29.00
     

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