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Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Tomase, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. Gary Murphy

    Gary Murphy Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I mist the tank once when lights come on and once more when lights go off. Also wrap the top with cling film and leave a small opening at the top. 10-12 is generally the average time to have lights on. Ive not heard of Dennerle before so wouldn't be able to give advice on nutrients so hopefully someone can give you a bit more info on that. Glad the guide helped ;)

    Dry start method is very good for getting carpet plants to root such as HC etc.
     

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    Its not only the hours of light its the type of light you have and the height from the substrate.

    At the moment I would say no as all your plants are young, also additional Fertilizes just might start the Algae which you do not want.

    Do you have any idea of what stock you would like to have?

    Keith:):)
     
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    Keith, I'm using the default lights that were included in my set - 2x High Lite Day 28W 590mm T5.
    The height between the plants and the lights is between 25-40cm.

    Understood - I'm just worried that the plants won't have enough nutrients to grow - the ground that I'm using has no nutrients at all, it's basically very porous akadama.
    Today I found several brown spots on the leaves and also one plant seems to dry up.

    I found two kind of fertilisers at home that I'm using for normal home plants with great success : Kristalon fertilisers
    I have two kinds:
    NPK 19-6-20 +3 MgO + 7.5 SO3 + ME (called Starter)
    NPK 15-5-30 + 3 Mg0 + 7.5 SO3 + ME (called Blooms & Fruits)

    So, is it still all right not to add fertilisers?

    I'd like to have fishes that will help fighting with Algae and that are suitable for a beginner.
    • Neon Tetra
    • Black Molly
    • Zebra Dario
    • Cherry barb
    • Neocaridina Davidi
     
  4. Gary Murphy

    Gary Murphy Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Might be worth getting some root tabs to put underneath your substrate, I have used it in sand before and had good growth. If your plants are drying up you need to mist them 2-3 times a day to prevent that happening as the humidity might be very high in your tank. Once in a morning when lights on, once mid day and once more before lights off.
     
  5. keithgh

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    I would be very careful using garden plant ferts as some have salts and once in your tank very difficult to remove.

    Root fert tabs are an excellent choice.

    Choice of fish here is a good program to use
    http://www.aqadvisor.com/

    Check the black Molly as I think they could be plant eaters.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Understood, thanks for the advice.

    In that case, I also have Osmocote Plus tabs (small balls). I found many aquarists discussion praising them - e.g. http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/fertilizing/79468-osmocote-thread.html.

    The type I have is NPK Mg 15-10-12 (2). How should I read the numbers?

    I suppose that I should simply add a ball or two to the roots of each plant, right? Will it still work when the plant is above the water level (the soil just wet, not flooded)?
     
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    Perfect, I checked Czech community web sites and they are having great results with the exact Osmocote fertiliser that I have. Actually, it's very recommended to use it, indeed. (Google translation of the page). So, I added about 3 grams yesterday, I'll add several more next week.

    Regarding Black Molly, you're right Keith - it eats everything it finds ;-) My aim was to get fishes that eats algae, thanks for the warning, I'll need to find a replacement.
     
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    I have seen on Aquarium Forums previously about Osmocote Plus and they do not realize there are many types its the same with home garden plants, you must have the correct fertilizer for certain plants.

    Siamese Algae Eaters do a good job with Algae only problem with them as they get older many get lazy and prefer the food they are given.

    Keith:):)
     
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    As I wrote before adding the fertiliser, some of the plants have brown spots and some are turning yellow.
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    What might be wrong? What would you suggest?
     
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    Hows things going Tomase? Your plants looking any healthier?
     
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    If the leaves are very badly damaged the best method might be cut them off and see if any new growth appears.

    Keith:)
     
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    Thanks for the advices.

    It seems that some of the old leaves died, but new leaves are appearing.

    It seems that the carpet flowers are finally starting to spread. For how many weeks would you recommend continuing DSM?

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    Seeing new growth has started I would remove as much dead bits and pieces as you can.

    I would not change any thing until the tank is fully established and looking very healthy.

    Keith:):)
     
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