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  1. treadstone144

    treadstone144 New Member

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    Hi guys

    I read on Barreport that too much dead organic matter in the tank can cause algea. At the same time can disturbing the soil cause ammonia spikes. Now when I use soil is there a sensible way to clean it? Or do you only clean gravel?

    Thanks!


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  2. Zeus

    Zeus Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I would say carefully when doing WC use the end of tube close to the AS to lift the detritus off the AS with minimal disturbance to the AS. Therefore removing the dead organic matter (detritus ) .
    But I'm the 'noob' here ! But I'm sure someone will post soon to clarify the best approach :)


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  3. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Disturbing ADA soil can cause a mini spike every thing depends how much its disturbed.

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    This was my Low Tech tank before I had to pull it down (my health reasons).

    The foreground and a few of the backing plants were Crypts and they grow a lot better if the mulm around them is not disturbed, I would wave my hands over them and syphon it off.

    I also ran Under Gravel Filter UGF with risers this kept the water moving through the substrate and under the UGF plates were always cleaned by siphoning via the risers.

    It comes back to your substrate and your planting plus the filtration.

    Note very little Algae.
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  4. treadstone144

    treadstone144 New Member

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    Hi Keith

    thank you very much for your insights on this. I think that Amano shrimp and snails can do a lot of the work together with the micro fauna and bacteria which is developing in the soil.

    Really nice tank you had! Seems that the mulm is part of the aquarium biology and an important one.

    Best
    Jochen


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  5. ShadowMac

    ShadowMac Moderator Staff Member

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    In planted Nature aquariums, high flow and filtration and frequent water changes are the ways to keep a tank clean. If you have a good deal of detritus gathering at the substrate level your flow may not be adequate. Gravel vacuuming is not done in a nature aquarium. We rely on the plants and the microbiome of the system to eliminate organic waste. I've run nature aquariums for years without ever cleaning the planted substrate.

    It is a good rule of thumb to do a large water change after you complete any round of maintenance in a tank, particularly if you disturb the substrate. In a healthy tank, the ammonia/organics released from disturbing the substrate is of little consequence when followed by a water change.
     
  6. Shane P.

    Shane P. Moderator Staff Member

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    Keith, how many years did it take to achieve that look? Also, what are Under Gravel filter risers?

    Also, what size is that tank? It is very very pretty!

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  7. keithgh

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    Too many I must have spent over a year looking for that tank and DW, then there was all the planning once I had every thing. Its about 2Mt from my computer desk, I would work on it a little then every now and then go and adjust it.

    Its never stopped developing that stage of development would have been 4+ years.
    I had the Aquascape for about 6 years before I sold every thing except the tank which now in the process of making another Terrascape

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    The riser is the vertical tube RH end.

    Thank you I considered it very highly and I do miss it but for health my reasons I had to pull down my tanks and turn them into Terrascapes. My biggest joy was asked would I take several photos and forward them as it going into following years Calendar.

    The tank is a Jebo 375 Bowfront.

    Here is the 5ft Terrascape
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    Its developed a lot since then and the plants still growing.
    I can water that through the UGF riser hidden back LH corner.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    You certainly have a green thumb, Keith! (y)
     
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    Do you keep any animals in the terrascape?


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    It only requires a few liters of tap water when it look like it needs it, no ferts just a very good potting soil.

    Shane before the Terrascape was fully developed one of our cats would nibble on a few plants. Other than the odd insect nothing at all not even worms in the soil I keep forgetting to put some in when I find them in the garden.

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  11. Shane P.

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    Cats are hilarious lol
     
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    One of our girls in the 45lt as I was building it for my first Terrarium.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    The wood that I used in the 20 long looks similar to that on the bottom right of the cat. Lovin the whiskers!
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Shane the wood I used in that Terrascape was just scraps I had left over from previous Aquascapes.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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