Discussion in 'General Aquascaping and Planted Tank Discussions' started by dg2606, Feb 10, 2009.
Is using a snail killing chemical detrimental to aquarium plants?
i would say it depends on its content.
why use chemicals? try "Anentome Helena" - it is a Robbery snail and do not reproduce itself in fresh water. very effective against those tower snails "Melanoides" and ofcourse they kill alll other snails.
Well my tank has not completed the nitrogen cycle as of yet. And freshly planted with stem plants and HC neither of witch has established. Would adding an assassin snail be ok (on the HC)?
I plan on removing the stem plants and bathing in the solution and not adding it directly to the aquarium. But in the reading notcied most do NOT kill eggs. Is there something better to soke the plants in?
DIY vinegar solution, but this is realy risky and you can damage your plants ..
what kind of snail do you want to get rid of?
DIY vinegar solution? What are the pro's and cons of using this method and how is it made?
Um not too sure but they are very small and blackish. There are thousands of them now.
if you post a photo of them, we can ID them
pros : it is cheap and it works also against bacteria
contras: you can kill almost all of your plants if the solution is too strong
it is made when you give 1 part vinegar and 10 parts water, but I´m not sure.
there are also fishes that eat snails: Botia almorhae is a beautiful one, it stays small and should do his/her job very well
Yeah I have 3 of them (yoyo loaches) in another tank. I plan on using them and the assassin snails after tank cycles and the HC is established ( they are quite a messy fish but exetremely enloyable to watch ).
I will look into the vinegar solution and try this method prior to adding the fish and snails.
Sorry one more question. But looking on the internet I found nothing about the DIY vinegar recipe. Does any one know where I could find info on it
Those snail killer chemicals probably will kill the beneficial bacteria in your filter.
My answer is on extrem side . I use bleach, 1 part bleach 20 part water soak it for less than 1 minute (need to try and error on the time). Hardy plant like nana, fern, most stem plants are usually ok but softer plant will confirm die . It also kill algae
There are saver way especially where there are no other fauna in your tank. Over dose CO2 ). I discover it by accidence, my son was playing around with CO2 needle valve. It kill everything except the plants ), probably due to pH crass. I do not know how long does it take to kill the snail. I only know that CO2 set to like 100bps after I came back from office.
Piece of cucumber, leave it for a few hours. pick it up. scrape snails into bin. put cucumber back.
Repeat process to eliminate as many as required.
I like snails anyway. the eat algae, eat excess food and turn my substrate over
I agree! I like snails too. Their very beneficial to a plant tank. To keep them under control just put a loach in your tank.
or dwarf puffer fish, they are cute
i love my mts too, they've never harmed my plants and eat any food that's left by the fish! plus turning over the substrate.
as for your little black ones can't be sure unless you post a photo but most aquarium snails are harmless as far as i know. a friend has eliminated them all with a kuhli loach though, if all else fails!
wouldn't try the bleach solution, it might ruin more delicate plants and will certainly kill off all your useful bacteria.
as for the co2 overdose there is the risk of triggering algae problems!
post a photo or google aquarium snails to identify yours
well i always wanted to get snails in my tank. but i naver saw any.
i even asked the petshop if i could take some whit me, and they scooped up some for free.
but they never did reproduce. and well, i had some botia striata so that would probably make the ansver to that issue
some do sell the sandsnails to ppl who have darf puffers, no goldmine but maybe an option?
Wait until MTS breed out of control ) they did not harm plants infact they help cleaning algae but it is unsightly if out of control.
You can't use bleach inside the tank, it will kill everything. Bleach can only be use outside the tank before you start planting your plant. Always rinse your plant properly after cleaching and soak it in anti clorine solution (10 time recomended dossage).
This is the first time I heard CO2 overdose causing algae problem. I'm interested to know the rational.
MTS invasion can pul out carpet plants like hc or glosso also they sometimes when the water conditions arent perfect are creepeing all to the surface, at this moment you can collect them off
I would like to hear the reasoning here too!!! Many people blast their CO2 as high as they can when they setup a scape as they have no inhabitants in the tank with absolutely no algae problems. In fact they do it to stop algae!!!
As for MTS I once arrived home to a yellow DC (yellow means smilie colour!!! quite literally) and all fish dead, all shrimps dead, all snails dead.
Removed the fish and shrimp quickly but had to try and fish all the MTS out so they didn't rot in the substrate. Within a few minutes of taking snails out I noticed they were climbing the bucket!!!!
Put quite simply you can post snails like you post plants and they survive. They are very hard to kill!!!! I like my MTS. They are nother critter in the tank to watch and be part of nature with.
Juri - I can assure you this is not from bad water parameters!!! This will happen at lights on every day
no personal experience on this one, just a thought based on what i've more than often read: that algae appears when there is no balance as to lighting, co2 and fertilizers! i thought a co2 overdose might disturb the balance?:-? of course if you've tried it with no negative results i suppose it's fine!
The imbalance is not enough light or nutrients to go with the co2, or the co2 not high enough.
The other way around, not enough nutrient and CO2 to go with the light.
Light will dictate everything whether you want it to be low tech (no fertilizer and CO2) or High tech (with fertilizer and CO2). Light intensity go up, fertilizer and CO2 must also go up but not the other way around. I mean it is ok to dose excess fertilizer and CO2 but do not dose ammonia.
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