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Return of the Shallow

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Tim Harrison, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. John Whatmough

    John Whatmough Aspiring Aquascaper

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  2. Tim Harrison

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    Thank you John :)
     
  3. Tim Harrison

    Tim Harrison Moderator Staff Member

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    It's taken me longer to get around to flooding the scape than I would have liked, the usual life stuff and holidays getting in the way, meaning I haven't been around to do the daily water changes needed to give a newly flooded tank the best possible start. Consequently, the scape has become a bit overgrown.

    Day 61 of the dry start...

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    By comparison day 1 of the dry start...

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  4. Zeus

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    Still looks good as we have all come to expect from you Tim. The Master and his Art form.

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  5. Tim Harrison

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    Aw shucks @Zeus that really nice of you to say so :)
     
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    Hi Tim!

    You really can see the 61 days of DS, the layout is beautifull grown in. I hope you won't get any problems after flooding the tank.

    Great layout!
     
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  7. Tim Harrison

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    @-serok- thanks Andy, I think I'm going to have to give it a trim.
     
  8. keithgh

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    Tim

    "Think" It might be convenient to trim before the flooding but could effect the plants?

    Personally I would be tempted to flood it first then after every thing has settled in I would do a big water change a good trimming and a few weeks later do the same thing and finish the trimming. Just a thought.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  9. Tim Harrison

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    Hi Keith, my thoughts exactly, however, I think I may have left it to long, I might have to bite the bullet and just get it done as soon as possible.
     
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    Is it possible to try it in a very small area and use it as another learning curve?

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  11. Tim Harrison

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    That's definitely a possibility Keith, thanks for the suggestion. I've had chance to think it through though.
    With it being a newly set up tank I'm going to have to drastically reduce the duration of the photoperiod and intensity of the lighting, water will reduce it further, so the lighting won't be able to support the existing growth especially the shaded growth underneath.
    So if left as is, it'll most likely suffer massive die back and release of organics and then algae, and then maybe the rot will set in and melt the whole carpet.
    Add to that the lack of CO2 flow and distribution due to the obstruction caused by the plant mass and I think I'm damned if I don't trim but maybe not if I do trim...so I've decided to give it all a severe trim.
    That way it can grow back in response to the changed conditions and will hopefully be sustainable.
    Well that's my rationale anyway...watch this space :confused:
     
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    Tim thanks for sharing your words of experience with us, with the potential issues your thinking with reduced CO2 with water etc, light reductions. Then with the massive reduction in flow once water is added. All makes great sense with my limited experience and extensive reading.
    Watching like a Hawk!

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    No worries Zeus, I'll be watching my tank like a hawk as well :)
     
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    Wow. You really are a genius about this stuff! Gonna be watching this super closely to see what happens
     
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    I am sure many members will certainly learn from keeping track of this Topic.
    My suggestion for all learners make hard copy of your notes its the safest way plus easy to check up.

    Keith :cat::cat:
     
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  16. Tim Harrison

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    Thanks guys, but you may well be learning from my mistakes :confused:;)
     
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    I wise man learns from his mistakes, a wiser man learns from others mistakes and hopefully together we learn, sharing our mistakes, learning faster with less mistakes, that's just common sense and Great Science when we share our failures/successes theroys explaintions
     
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    Over the years plus all the Forums I think I could write a book on "Mistakes" made related to aquariums. As I have said previously when I started there was no such thing as a computer and Forums. When you made a mistake you had to find the cause and fix it your self.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  19. Tim Harrison

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    So...the plants arrived and now it's time to bite the bullet and flood....
    I've chosen 3 Rotalas - Rotala sp. Vietnam, Rotala colorata, and Rotala walichii for the background.
    I've also lodged a selection of Buces in between the branches of the stump, not to sure what they are, but some are Brownies.
    Once flooded I gave the scape a massive trim and gave it its first water change.

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    This is such a beautiful scape, Tim. Looking forward to seeing this thing grown in fully again. Glad you are adding some stems. It will be a nice touch to the background.
     
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