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Redoing my 10g

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by BigAL777, May 20, 2016.

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  1. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Try to work to the natural look rather every thing being perfectly balanced to the "Rules" also remember you are the only one who can see the tank fully and its surrounds all we have is a flat image.

    It would look very odd if every rock was exactly the same size and shape perfectly spaced between each other.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     

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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Don't worry Keith, I'll be doing a lot of picture taking for layout feedback. I was merely acknowledging you were on to something.
    Without plants, would it be smart to hook an air pump onto the outflow pipe? I actually have an inline co2 atomizer from up aqua as well as an ista max mix. Which one do you think would work best with a basic air pump?
     
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    OK lets see if I have this correct you want to add air to your outlet flow.

    My question would by why?

    To be completely honest I have never heard of this before.

    You could get a similar effect by connecting a fine long air stone under the outlet.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  4. BigAL777

    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Yeah I figured if the water is well oxygenated it will help with fish health. This is the time to ask these questions before I set up the aquarium with water.
     
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    A good ceramic fine stone would do an excellent job and last for years.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    The wood came in today, it's larger than I expected. I may chop up one of the pieces i got since it may not fit in my tank.
    IMG_20160531_234330592_HDR.jpg IMG_20160531_225042118_HDR.jpg
     
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    That is a good selection you have to play with now.

    Here are a few suggestions for you to consider.

    The centre piece of DW I would consider cutting those top bold/broken pieces.

    Now move it to the RH end.

    The RH piece place it in the middle (off centre) if possible but laying it on so the best side is facing up.

    Try to weave the pieces together and see how it looks.

    With just those two major moves you now have many options of placing the three pieces of DW do they are in their best possible position.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    That piece in the middle has a branch coming right out of the back, like a tripod. The piece on the right has a long branch that spans almost the rest of the tank, the piece in the middle is sitting on top of that branch.
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    I see what you mean, that might be able to be used to link every thing together in one way or another.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I turned the middle piece 180 degrees so that it is not quite the focal point. Remember that the wood that looks bright will actually be the same as the dark wood once it's wet again.
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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I am kind of liking the wood layout (I don't like the middle piece very much). So I decided to play around with the rocks and came up with this:
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    There is a subtle difference in the piece of branch.
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    Edit: I took out the middle piece of DW, I'm still playing around with the scape.
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    Much better...needed more hardscape!

    sent from tapatalk on my phone so auto correct and other errors are bound to happen
     
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    BigAL777 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I like the third one, without the middle piece. I feel there's a bit too much negative space showing under the roots of the left DW. I placed a medium sized stone in the back to kind of break up the monotony of the background.
    Edit:
    I added and filled in spots with sand and moved some stones around like I mentioned above. All three photos are of the same layout, no changes.
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    I am very happy with this layout, unless someone has an objection to it, I'll fill it with water tonight.
     
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    I had to sit a rock on top of the piece of DW because it was barely floating.
    I need fish stocking ideas. It is only a 10g, but the filter is pretty strong (100 gph).
     
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  15. keithgh

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    I would prefer three pieces but it just does not work out that way.

    I do like it the way your are trying different positioning of the DW

    Is it possible to move the two pieces closer together as at the moment it looks like two nice pieces of DW not complementing each other.

    What are you going to with the third piece now?

    If possible I would consider cutting it up and weaving it through the two pieces of DW and scatter the remainder under and around the tank with the scattered rocks.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    I will keep the third intact for now, there are some nice bends on it and I already have pieces of it that I took off and added to the tank: IMG_20160602_005959.jpg
    I was thinking of pushing the left piece towards the center, but fought myself in doing it. I'll try it out, I'm just worried about losing the reflection on the left, the right side barely has one too.
     
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    I would certainly try moving both towards the centre and with the off cuts see what can be done with them.

    It could give it more of the Island look about your scape.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Like this? 1464932609092-774570770.jpg
    I still need to level the sand out and hide the brown substrate sticking out.
    Edit: here's what I don't like: the branch on the right I want to cut off, it's distracting. The spots in yellow need some twisty branch or something in the negative space. Am I crazy? Or am I on to something?
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    1 I agree its not doing any thing and you are concerned it will always be staring at you and it will eventually drive you crazy.

    2 I would cut it and lay it across as my rough sketch it might help to link the two pieces together more.

    3 I might look better in new location 3 red circle.

    This is about the level the substrate could be.

    If you have any more big rocks see how they look under the DW centres it will give you another dimension of height at that general area.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Cut that piece off and rearranged the stone and loose branches.
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    Edit: I don't like the wood arrangement. I think I am going to swap the two pieces, and jam them together in the middle, to really make a strong island look.
     
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