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Power in Chaos

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by lucasgg, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. greenfinger 2

    greenfinger 2 Active Aquascaper

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    Hi Lucas.

    Working on nutrient balancing issues right now. ???

    Work on the hours of lighting first. El don't go for the full ferts do half as your scape is new watch how the plants grow and adjust.

    Are you doing regular water changes and cleaning the filter ???

    By the build up of algae on the glass and plants you need more maintenance :(
     

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  2. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Lucas

    Looks like Roy has given you excellent advice.

    Keith:):)
     
  3. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    Sure thing. Been pretty busy lately. Roy: you are saying that I should dose half of what I regularly do, yeah?
     
  4. greenfinger 2

    greenfinger 2 Active Aquascaper

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    Hi Lucas, Yes When the plants start to grow then increase your ferts :)
     
  5. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    Alrighy. My sand has a lot of detritus and algae in it. Should I purschase some trumpet snails?
     
  6. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Can you syphon the sand out (where possible) wash it and then replace it or top up with a new sand?

    Keith:):)
     
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  7. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    That I could manage. One thing that I have to think about are my stupid fish. Once I was siphoning with my largest hose, and one of my neons just swam towards the hose, sucked into the bucket, and died later of swim bladder failure. I'll just have to be more careful. How deep should I clean the sand?
     
  8. keithgh

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    Not knowing the depth of the problem I would try to remove at least 20-25ml.

    Keith:):)
     
  9. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    I removed roughly half of the sand. It looks a lot better now. Just got around to cleaning the filter and touching up. Bought some Dwarf Rotala, and simply planted it.
    ~Dosing Routine: 1mL excel, ½ scoop nitrate, 1 mil phosphorous Monday & Thursday, 1 tiny (pinch) of CSB+M (Starting this tomorrow)
    The java has responded well to the increased . The BGA has also slowed down a little after cleaning substrate

    Water is getting a little green.

    BEFORE:
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    Replace water via airshose siphon
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    DONE!
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    The petite aquarium above
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  10. keithgh

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    Lucas looks like you have a very good growth of algae there.

    I would suggest you try two 30% water changes per week and see if this helps.

    Keep the filter very clean.

    Keith:):)
     
  11. Ed Villagracia

    Ed Villagracia Active Aquascaper

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    re: Erythromycin yes it is antibiotic. pharmacist will always ask for a doctor's prescription.
    however we are allowed to purchase 1 tablet only as long we inform them that it is intended for aquarium use.
    most of the hobbyist here my place recommend using this kind of BGA treatment when worst comes to worst.

    during my treatment i purchased one tablet only to cure my tank. i used the cheapest one - generic brand.
    and work really in a short period of time.
     
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  12. keithgh

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    mr_ED

    when using Erythromycin many forget it can effect your filter.

    Keith:):)
     
  13. Ed Villagracia

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    hi Keith to others maybe. but here in my country we always inform hobbyist the set back might happen
    when using erythromycin. we always advise to shut off the filter during the course of treatment [and re run after 50% WC]
    as mentioned to my above post it will kill the beneficial bacteria already developed in the tank and filter.

    in my case, to introduce BB the fastest way, i used another filter from my other tank after treatment.
     
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  14. keithgh

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    mr_ED

    The trouble you often see on Australian Forums some just go ahead and pump chemicals into their tank simply because they saw it on the WWW (which is always right) and all of a sudden the tank goes crazy and they wonder why.

    Keith:):)
     
  15. MarcelM

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    Cyano is a bacteria, often called algae but it isn't.. The cause is Eutrophication :) in normal terms to much bioload causing spikes in amoinia, nitrite, nitrate etc. Bilogical polution. To much bioload like to much dying plant mass and or poop etc. in/on the substrate. To much feeding.. Or the tank didnt cycle long enough before extra bio load is added. This in combination with fertilization and Cyano will thrive. Blasting it with antibiotics is mostly also a blast for the benefical bacteria in your tank as well. So with them dying also you'll back to square 1 with that. :)

    You should fight the root cause and keep the tank cleaner. Vacuum it out, smaller areas, hardware. glass etc. can be very effectively spot treated with h2o2.

    Realy cleaning and getting your water quality in balance is the only best remedy.. :) (y)

    Since it's a bacteria also thriving on light, getting this down will help it developing less fast, but doesn't clean the mess..
     
  16. lucasgg

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    Exactly. I guess 3 years of no maintenance does that. I'd tear the whole setup down in a heart beat, but we may be moving soon. I don't want to deal with moving a pre existing Aquascape.

    As of now, I'll keep up regular water changes on Monday and Thursday, and on Thursday, I'll clean the filter. (Already done that)
     
  17. keithgh

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    Lucas 3 years no maintenance if I missed the monthly filter cleaning I could start to see signs of lack of maintenance.

    I always cleaned the filter medium in the old tank water but the sponges (in the Eheim canisters) always washed under the tap until perfectly clean then rinsed in the old tank water.

    I always double dosed with Seachem Stability and I never had a problem.

    What I was doing was no different that changing the filter sponges.

    Keith:):)
     
  18. lucasgg

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    Update: I Cleaned more sand and I've been doing regular water changes(2x week) and cleaning my filter pads(1x week). The cyanobacteria has slowed down more. I'm doing research on tetras that can handle harder water(my only practical stone option is limestone). Rummynose and Rasbora tetra came to the table, along with otocinclus catfish. Maybe someday I could keep shrimp too.


    The weather is favoring the moss, as temperatures are dropping to the 40ºF(2ºC) during the nighttime.
     
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  19. keithgh

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    Is it possible the concern is with the sand?

    If so could you slowly replace it with a good quality medium?

    Keith:):)
     
  20. Ed Villagracia

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    i have been browsing this thread for a couple of times and,
    it seemed no improvement [curing algae] with the set up todate.

    if that is my tank, i will start all over again......reset is best thing to do.
    cleaned well everything before placing back what you have removed
    if you plan to use again.

    i read somewhere - limestone not good for pressurized co2 system but it can lower or balance ph.
     
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