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Portinho da Arrábida - uma vista de Troia -22/9/11

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Supercoley1, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. Supercoley1

    Supercoley1 Moderator Staff Member

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    The lighting builds can be found here:

    The initial build:
    GreenNeedle-Page1-DIY LED Lighting

    and the updated version (updated outer shell not electrics)
    GreenNeedle-Page1-DIY LED Lighting MkII

    Thanks. The rocks caught my eye and it was them really along with seeing George's minimalist Iwagumi that changed the intended plan for my new scape.

    The more I look at mine I think I've moved quite far away from NA in that rather than replicating nature it's more a 'lifestyle' setup as in a structured design with added plants. A planted sculpture if you like.

    However I do like that look. Whilst being a pretty old fashioned person who hates the modern world's lack of morals and patience I am very much a fan of modern art like Picasso, Modigliani, Pollock etc but I don't like (or possibly don't understand/get.) Tracy Emin or Damian Hurst. So I do like simplicity and clean contrasting shapes.

    Saying that I wouldn't goas far as shaping my rocks into perfect straight edges (at this moment) because I do like a natural look too.

    Maybe one for the future where I shape some rocks into linear objects and see what I can do with that. Would be in the future though. Have to build up the bravery to take the criticism :)

    Andy
     

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  2. hamza

    hamza Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Its always refreshing to find some unusual hardscape, will be looking forward to the progress.

    And your LED system looks damn good too. All I can do is drool at it...
     
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    I read through the LED build's and it was pretty cool, good job and thank you for making a step by step. I really really like the idea of having a day night cycle instead of just "ON" and then "OFF".
     
  4. Supercoley1

    Supercoley1 Moderator Staff Member

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    September 22nd 2011

    About 2 and a half months old now and this scape has some algae problems being GDA on the rocks. The plants seem to be algae free though which is puzzling.

    The main cause is because I have had some CO2 problems. Namely the bubble counter broke, so I made a DIY one while I waited for a new bubble counter, then the DIY one started leaking and to complete the agony the seller who I bought the replacement bubble counter got removed from ebay.

    So in the end I decided to plug the CO2 directly into the diffuser with no bubble counter. Hopefully now with stable CO2 the algae will improve.

    The second problem is that my style and preference has been evolving a bit and quite rapidly. This scape was spurred by an interest in more minimal and modern styling however it seems I started this scape 'mid evolution' as within a month I was thinking of much more modern 'abstract' ideas. More sculptured, more a design ethic than a nature mimicry. More to let the viewer decide what they were looking at rather than the scape telling you what you were looking at.

    So with that in mind I have been stuck with these ideas in my head whilst still being in the early days with a scape that is already obsolete in my preference of style.

    However I shall persevere. I don't want to give up on this. So I will continue and put a little more effort into it.

    Next month I shall be altering the plan slightly but not to a modern 'abstract' styling. If anything it will move closer to the NA style I complain about so much. I am going to add in some Rotala 'sp green' and Rotala Wallichii in the rear. I'll also trim the Fissidens and spread the trimmings over some more of the rock. Then add some more Needle Fern in to hide the lower portion of the Rotalas.

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  5. ghostsword

    ghostsword Aspiring Aquascaper Staff Member

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    It looks nice, even with the gda on the rocks, looks natural!

    Nice Cory's by the way! :)


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  6. Supercoley1

    Supercoley1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Just an update. This was done 31st October 2011

    Planted the stems in the rear. There is Rotala sp green on the left and right with Rotala Wallichii in the centre. The green algae on the rocks remains every now and again crusting and falling off. Hopefully these stems will help add plantmass to combat this.

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  7. Supercoley1

    Supercoley1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Just an update but with no pictures I'm afraid. Will get some pictures sorted next time :)

    I got a bit carried away pruning back the stems in November and cut them in the weakened part of the stem. The section at the bottom which was originally in emersed form so am now having to wait for the clippings I saved in my emersed cupboard to recover enough to plant. lol

    As a makeweight I have planted some Rotala Rotundifolia in the centre until I get enough Walichii to replace it. Will also have to wait until the Rotala sp Green recovers to replant the side. lol

    Am also going to prune and reglue some Fissidens this week. Just lower the water level down to 2" at the front, make sure the fish are all in that water and then clip and glue. Already done this twice and may well need to do it more yet just to get a nice covering. Doesn't seem to spread out like it does on wood. Just grows out from the point it started. After 1 hour or so later refill with saved water just to make sure the glue has 'cured'.

    Also the flame moss has been removed (or all but the smallest amounts) because I didn't like the look of it. Not what I was envisaging. Have replaced it with loads of little bits of gravel with a rolled up ball of thicker more horizontal growing moss instead. I'll do a little pictorial of how I do this in the Lallana Point journal in the next few days. As I am adding some more flame moss in there. Won't be adding many full pictures of Lallana Point though because I have plans for that one to enter competitions. They'll just be teasers, not full frontals.
     
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    I'm eager to see how it's come together, Andy!
     
  9. Supercoley1

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    I've taken some pictures. Just got to get round to sorting out the post(s). A bit different to what I said above. I decided to just go for a traditional 'manicured' finish, get it done and finished so I can move on to what I really want to do i.e. the abstract stuff :)

    Will post up in the next few days.

    Good to hear form you Garuf. Hope all is well ;)
     
  10. Garuf

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    You know me, when is anything ever all well?
    Abstract strikes the fear of god into me, avant gaurde too, I'm afraid I just fail to get it a lot of the time, and this is from someone who for the last 7 years has been studying design and art in one form or another.
     
  11. Supercoley1

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    Well, you've seen the sketches I made. I'm not going for the ludicrous however I want to take what Amano does, which is to give an essence of nature without replicating it and not as many are interpreting it where they quite literally replicate a scene underwater.

    So it won't be off the wall stuff. Just taking that 'essence' a little further and use a quite obviously designed and manmade 'structure' whilst at the same time making sure that people will naturally see it as portraying something natural. A Paradox where people can see it is false but associate it with something natural.

    This is the one that will go into this tank end of summer(ish). Hopefully if it works the viewer see it is manmade, sees it cannot possibly be natural but their mind tells them it looks like a.......(leaves room for different interpretations by different people.)

    At the same time (end of summer) The cabinet will be replaced with a gloss white one and the Luminaire is having a makeover to match :)
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    I have decided I want to get this scape finished by the end of summer and have reverted to a more traditional 'full' style. In the rear corners I have planted Pogostomen Erectus and Glosso around the sides of the scape. Just the sand 'should' remain in view. Some 'before and after' shots below.

    The Cherry shrimps are a little 'out of control' at the moment because I only sell them off in the warmer weather. A lot of these will go from March onwards.

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  13. Supercoley1

    Supercoley1 Moderator Staff Member

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    I finally broke this scape down. No pictures to add I'm afraid but it hadn't moved on much since the pictures above. Due to a new optiwhite tank coming soon and other projects needing this tank out of the way it had to go.

    Onwards and upwards ;)
     
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    onwards and upwards.. :)

    So the new tank, will it be high tech? :)
     
  15. Supercoley1

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    It may start out hi-tec to get things growing well and then after a month or so revert to non CO2 because it will have zebra plecs in it :)

    Definitely hi tec with the lighting as I am moving the electrics (still working fine after 3 years and 4 months. lol) from the old LED unit into another project and building a completely new unit. More powerful and better LEDs to boot so when it goes non CO2 the power will have to be reeled in. Probably use a dimmer on that or reduce the voltage going into each driver.

    Portiho was in effect hi tec with highlight, CO2 and ferts etc but I skimped on the plants at the beginning and it never really recovered from that low plant mass. The algae took over on the rocks (not anywhere else mind) and even once the stems went in there still wasn't much plantmass really. The rocks took up a huge footprint.

    Looking forward to starting it but will be in a couple of months. Tank to arrive, parts for new luminiare and then the build plus work to be done behind the tank etc.

    Should be cool.
     

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