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Discussion in 'Aquatic Plants' started by Culprit3, May 24, 2017.
If you can get 9 litres in your tank get 9
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Do you think getting 3 liters for the island, then using sand or eco complete for the carpet? I think for my carpet either dhg or marsilea.
Get plenty of what ever you choose it will always come in handy.
Do you think 9 liters of aquasoil will be enough? If I don't have enough with 9 liters, I can always dirt the flat areas, because I won't be changing that area, then use aquasoil for the island.
I went ahead and finally ordered a bubble counter, GH/KH test kit for making 4dkh test solution, bromothymol blue, and a drop checker.
I've been looking into the turface pro, safe-t-zorb and stuff and it actually looks really good. What if I got 3 liters of aquasoil, then mixed it with something like aqua clay ground.
Got this from https://www.ukaps.org/index.php?page=guide-to-substrates
That sounds reasonable. Seems George uses it that way. I would suggest using regular Amazonia not the light version. Grain size can be regular or powder size. I prefer powder as it's easier for carpet plants.
Where can I buy it? I was planning on buying this https://www.amazon.com/Aqua-Soil-Am...=UTF8&qid=1496526539&sr=8-1&keywords=aquasoil or this for the 3 liter https://www.thegreenmachineonline.com/shop/ada-aqua-soil-amazonia-3-litre-2/
Powder is also 10 bucks cheaper and if dhg or marsilea will still grow in regular... I think it might be cheaper just to buy the 9 liter if it will be enough.
what size is your tank?
20 gallon long.
you'll need the 9 litre. i have the same tank size. you'll also probably need some filler depending on the height of your slope.
Alright, 9 liter it is. I am planning on using lava rock underneath for the slope. Whats your average substrate depth?
So now I've decided on my substrate, now its time for the plants. What do you think of my original drawing? Do you think it would look better like this, heavily planted or carpeted? I was kind of thinking of positioning my filters at each end facing the front, or one at each far end, facing each other. That one java fern in front might drown out that rock too much, so I might just put hydrocotyle or dwarf sag there instead. If heavily planted, I want this kind of look, but probably with a carpet in the bare area.
If medium planted but carpet plants/low growers then something like this:
and then if carpeted then just pick the right carpet plant.
4 inches in the back tapered to 1 inch in the front.
Thanks. @keithgh @lucasgg @Tim Harrison what do you think of the drawing? For carpet plants either dhg or monte carlo.
Should I get regular grain size or the powder? I've heard stuff about the powder breaking down easier... Powder , Regular
I did my carpet with Eleocharis acicularis 'mini' which is what you may be refering to as DHG, I did a DSM and it went very well and was easy IMO. I was also undecided about going for Powder or regular, went for regular in the end but mixed my grass with microswords too. Tim has used the ADA AS powder in his tanks. There is pros and cons for and against the powders can look great with a fine carpet, small particles can reduce the water flow though the substrate.
Yes, thats dwarf hair grass. I think I might do a DSM it depends what plants I decided on. I think I might as well do the regular bc monte carlo and dhg will do well in it. They might do better in powder but I've got to think of the other plants too.
What do you think of the plants?
I did the DSM then added the other plants just before Flooding. got carpet going first
No plant expert, but the Vals are pretty prolific when they get going
The planting plan looks OK on paper but it will look totally different after its planted.
So do you think I should, after i get my aquasoil in, go ahead and get the plants and set it up? Do you think I should dry start for the carpet?
Right now i think it looks too divided. Most good aquascapes I've seen seem to have lots of variety and they are all mixed together. What should I do to cget that?
For my carpet I think I'm really leaning towards monte carlo or dwarf hair grass. I can probably dry start both.
So plants I need:
More dwarf sag
Should I do one or two java ferns? What type of val and how many? How much do you think I'll need of the carpet? If DHG probably two buckets, but I have no idea on the monte carlo.
DSM definitely, cycles the AS as well, plus gives time to get a good coverage before flooding plus easier to plant.
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Perfect. So do you think I should do dwarf hair grass or monte carlo?
I was advised to mix my carpet as it can look too manicured, Mixing a couple which look similar give it a more wild/natural look. Its your call.
(Plus with DSM no algea issues as the AS cycles - forgot to mention. I am sure you have read/aware about it, just a reminder)
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