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Plants and cichlids from Victoria!

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Park, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. Park

    Park New Member

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    기쁨의 순간 - "A Moments Pleasure" - before: "Plants and cichlids from Victoria!"

    Now my adventure can begin... :amillanbliss:

    Since june this summer I've been trying to convience my girlfriend, that I should get a new and bigger aquarium - then after 3 months she gave in! :daydream:

    So I've got a brand new 325 l. (130x50x50) in reg. floatglass custom-made from Germany!!!

    The stand is a standard effectlinekabinet from Akvastabil (Danish brand):
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    Regarding lamp I've decided to go with ATI Powermodule 6x54W T5 dimmable - price is
    :loco:, but the finish :113::
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    I've ordered following lighttubes:
    3 x Philips 827
    - spectral on page 9: http://www.elvvs.dk/pdffiles/articles/mastertl5ho.pdf
    3 x Philips 865
    - spectral on page 9: http://www.elvvs.dk/pdffiles/articles/mastertl5ho.pdf
    5 x Giesemann Midday
    - spectral: http://www.aqua2004.de/images/product_images/popup_images/midday.jpg
    6 x Narva Nature superb 076
    - spectral: http://www.narvadanmark.dk/spectral_energy_curve.phtml?pid=29&

    Pump I went with JBL CristalProfi e1500 and is very happy - it's almost silent!!! :113::
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    I got lilypipes in- and outlet.

    DIY CO2 (2x1½ l. yeast) og Aquatic Nature Tornado Reactor

    Råda sand 0,8 - 1,2 mm.

    Some DYI substrate - 1 kg. red-clay, 1 l. sphagnum and 500 ml. rexolin

    Ferts 3 times a week with waterchange (25%) on sunday:

    KNO3 - 3,91 gr. ~ 3/4 tsp
    K2SO4 - 1,38 gr. ~ 1/4 tsp
    KH2PO4 - 1,26 gr. ~ 1/4 tsp
    and rexolin 16 ml.

    Hardscape:
    lots of roots - approx. 10 pieces from 10 cm - 50 cm.
    Stones of granit.

    Flora:
    Anubias baterii var. nana "petite"
    Cryptocoryne wendtii "brown"
    Cryptocoryne parva
    Cabomba Caroliniana
    Echinodorus Paniculatus (Bleheri)
    Echinodorus angustifolius
    Echinodorus x barthii
    Echinodorus Latifolius 'xingu'
    Eleocharis parvula
    Glossostigma elatinoides
    Hydrocotyle leucocephala
    Hygrophila polysperma
    Lilaeopsis brasiliensis
    Limnophila Aromatica
    Ludwigia repens
    Microsorum pteropus
    Monosolenium tenerum
    Myriophyllum mattogrossense green
    Najas Guadalupensis
    Nesaea crassicaulis
    Pogostemon helferi
    Proserpinaca palustris
    Riccia fluitans
    Rotala wallichii
    Salvinia natans
    Taxaphyllum barbieri
    Vallisneria Americana (gigantea)
    Vesicularia sp. Christmas moss
    Utricularia graminifolia

    Fauna:
    - Haplochromis (Paralabidochromis) sp. rockkribensis - Makobe Island F1
    - Astatotilapia latifasciata - Zebra Obliquidens
    - Pundamilia nyererei – Mwanza F1
    - Neochromis nigricans F1
    - Corydoras venezuelanus

    - Corydoras napoensis
    - Corydoras leucomelas

    - Ancistrus sp.
    - Beaufortia leveretti


    Beautiful fish, the Victoria cichlids, but they won't let my scape alone :frusty: - they also want to have an oppinion about the scape- so alot of the plants are floating after they "scape" it! Esspecially :

    Utricularia graminifolia
    Pogostemon helferi
    Glossostigma elatinoides
    Eleocharis parvula
    Cabomba Caroliniana


    They have almost destroyed all of these plants - but I hope, that I can use the fish as trimmers... :-p

    Some of the fish before they could come in the new aquarium:
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    Haven't any up-to-date pics but they'll come soon!!!

    Thanks for your time! :Toofunny:
     

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  2. Carolina

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    Can we see a front full view?

    I am amazed that you have cichlids in a planted tank. I was told they would dig the plants up to make holes to breed.
     
  3. Park

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    There will be a full front view tomorrow!!! :party:

    And some cichlids are better than others regarding digging! Mine just eat some of the plants!!! If only the dug them out... Then I could have them in the tank and just replant them other places!
     
  4. Jurijs mit JS

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    omg ..
    i´m not sure about the natural habitat of victoria cichlids but i think except some anubias there isn´t much vegetation.
    if you realy like to do a planted cichlid tank then use pots for your plants - this will prevent uprooting and your cichlids still can influnce the tank as they like to.

    Please resize your pictures! - better use the attachment funktion or post thumbnails of the original pictures.
    as you use a windows pc - you can resize your pictures even with paint - press strg+k and do change the % .
     
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    More pics incl. full frontal.

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    Any ideas or suggestions? :rock: Please feel free to give critique!:-SS
     
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    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    there is some, but no response
     
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    Ok, about the habitat it's not to say because of the great variation in the lake.

    About the pots - the problem is that my fish eat many of the plants - not digging 'em up!

    I didn't reply because most of the "suggestions" were non-relevant! But now I have! And I removed the big pictures because now there's a full frontal!

    I bought all the things for a planted-tank... But since the fish came in, we made a compromise... And we'll have to see, if most of the plants will survive! :-?
     
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    You must know that there plants tasty for fish and some are not - those are anubias and crypts, maybe some sort of valisneria, i´m not sure - maybe the valisneria gigantea. all other plants will be eaten i suppose. as you have lots of driftwood in your tank you could tie anubias on it and moss. thanks for response
     
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    Any moss is a no go unfortunately!!! And they actually like my anubias! :thumpdown:

    As written before I'm trying to make a compromise with the fish! If they don't like a plant they can remove it, but they must accept that I might replace it with a new one! :ehhh:

    I'll hope that I'll be able to get my planted tank AND keep the Victoria cichlids!!! Otherwise I must wait till the fish go and visit the big tank in the sky!!! [-o<
     
  11. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    you can hurry up them with some wodka ;)
    Ok, normaly fich do not eat anubias because of their bitterly taste, same with crypts.

    for a long time it is very expensive what you are doing, replacing eaten plants with new one. you have to find plants your fish do not like for dinner or buy plastic plants. sorry, but this sounds for me as a bad compromise.
    good luck
     
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    Thanks, but luckyli I have a shrimp tank I use as back up for all my plants - so I don't buy new ones all the time but simply trim my back ups!

    But I'm hoping that someday I'll find a setup they won't mess up!

    In the meanwhile I'm giving them a lot of green vegestables in hope that they'll loose interest in my plants or let them grow so much, that they'll be able to withstand the "trimming" from the fish!
     
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    A shot where some of the fish are out to play! Had to try the attach-function :-SS
     

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    Received some of the tubes I ordered! And ta-daa all the plants stood pearling!!! It's amazing what light can do!!!
     
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    New Pic of the fish
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    Pics of spawn to come:
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    The father:
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    This tank quickly died because I wanted a planted tank! So sold the fish and have played with plants since!!! A lot of "scapes" has been in and out of the tank, but this is the one I have at the moment!
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    Update 22/4 2012
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