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Ohly's second scape: green rebirth

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Ohly, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Hi everyone!

    As I may have mentioned in my first scape post, I am currently preparing my tank for a new start.
    This one got a name. A name that is meaningful for me, because it will be a rebirth of the plant in this tank. Note its not an actual rebirth or resurrection like what would have happened in your favourite cult :p
    Plants will grow back in to this tank. With diversity, beauty and green leafs.

    Well enough of that intro and let's go to the interesting points.

    The tank: still my good homemade 11g high tank (much more like 41liters.)
    Filter: Eheim 2213 stock filter media but with fiber filter normally used with air filter added.
    The heater: Eheim... 150w I think ...
    Inflow/outflow: still stock ones for the moment, but I'm looking for a kit of lily pipes in upcoming month.
    CO2: pressurised 12oz paintball cylinder.
    Light: DIY LED 20watt adjustable(dimmable) (10500K for the moment, should be about 8000k)
    Substrate: (should be) reused fluval stratum
    Stones: Slate

    The hardscape. I intend to place the stones in a more central location. I might not be using the biggest stone from my last scape. And it will probably resemble an island hardscape but I won't restrict the plants from thriving at any place at the bottom.

    The plants. This is the interesting part, I have made a short list of plant I'd like to see in this tank, but I don't know if I'm missing a couple of plants or if I'm totally matching incompatible plants together?
    Here's the list

    Hydrocotyle leucocephala
    Marsilea quadrifolia
    Fissidens fontanus
    Blyxa japonica
    Cabonba (I'm not sure)
    Anubias Nana

    What do you think?
     
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  2. greenfinger 2

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    Hi Ohly, Sounds great :) And i like the name :cool: Love the idea of the slate it will blend well with the colour of the substrat

    Hydrocotyle l, Nice round leaf shape Grows fast like a weed :eek: You can eat the leaves of this plant it has a pepper flavor Nice with salad:D


    Marsilea q, "four leaf clover " The leaf shape will change under water to a round leaf :( Looks a bit like Glossostigma elatinoides :) but with larger darker leaves Should look good as a ground cover plant :rolleyes:

    Fiss, Well its just a fab moss:rolleyes:

    Blyxa J, Nice tall thin leaves will contrast well with the other plants:)

    Cabonba, Fast growing stem plant .Needs constant trimming :eek: You can eat this plant too :D But i have not eaten this one yet :giggle:

    Anubias, Well what can one say Superb looking slow growing little stunner:rolleyes::rolleyes:


    What fish & or shrimp are you thinking of having ??? Looking forward to this one :cool:
     
  3. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Im currently gathering some new equipment to restart the tank!
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    The garden mat! :p
    The amazonia : I will still use some of my used fluval stratum as a bottom layer topped with the amazonia which is also finer than the stratum. ^^
    The drop checker :p I'm not so sure about the fluval co2 indicator though.. There was no ada co2 indicator left at the store ...

    So better expect some hardscape photos on the next week! :p
     
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  4. keithgh

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    Ohly

    Its always great fun buying all new bits and pieces for a new challenge.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Ohly, I see you have been enjoying yourself getting your bits and bobs ready:D Looking forward to seeing the hardscape now:whistle:
     
  6. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    A few picture of early hardscape!

    First one:
    (Wasn't what I wanted to get but still sharing it)
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    2nd one : swapped left slate from the front to the back

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    3rd: getting them closer and "sloping " the substrate from the central hardscape.. (That's closer to the desires hardscape but still not what I'm totally looking for)

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    I will try with some other slate later this week.

    If you have any idea for a island (central hardscape) style hardscape, please let me know :D
     
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    Hi Ohly, I like the 3rd hardscape:) But a odd number of rocks would look better ;)
     
  8. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Also the back left rock will be replaced
     
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  9. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    My girlfriend told me the center of the scape's looking empty... Personally I feel its missing height but I can't truly reach the desired hardscape ... And my really limited number of slate is not helping

    Maybe I should look at a drift wood at my LFS ... This would give plenty height and new opportunities!
    :p

    Finally I ordered an inline co2 reactor/diffuser from eBay
    Does anyone here uses similar diffuser?
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    Hope its a good one ^^
     
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    Ohly

    I fully agree with your girl friend its far to open in the central area.

    Here are a few things you could consider.

    Buy a taller rock for the main feature rock (I stretched it)

    Move both of the front rocks towards the centre.

    The Substrate could look better if it was less and an even height across the front of the tank.

    The front substrate can then be used at the back and centre to give a little extra height.

    I filled the back and sides in for one reason only it was a distraction.

    Keith:):)
     
  11. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Hey ! ive got the slate my gf wasn't using, (that's because is really difficult to get back where I took my slate since its winter and the quarry is covered with a good thickness of snow ...
    So as I was saying I got some new slate !
    I got one taller, but it has a rectangular like shape.

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    Here s another point of view

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    That much better, but again there is something that tickle my eyes but I'm not sure what.

    Also, I've ordered some plants from my The Plant Guy :p
    I bought 3 anubias barteri var Nana . it mainly to be sure the postal service is good enough to deliver the plants to my small town.
    They intend to do the shipments next monday. So by Wednesday or Thursday I should have received the plants that my GF's tank will host till Im fully ready!

    I may buy some black fabric to use as a curtain to hide the background of the basement :p
     
  12. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Here is something me and my gf placed,

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    Notice the back right rock, its not really the best place for it, but it was to see what it would look like with 5 stones instead of 4 and IMHO even if this rock did not belong there, 5 stones is better than 4!
     
  13. keithgh

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    I agree an odd number is usually far better.
    This is what I am seeing at the moment.
    1 tall central rock and 4 around it in a square pattern.

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    Her are a few things you can consider.

    Leave the tall central and back LH rock as is (at the moment)

    Swap 1 & 2 around but relocate 1 where I have suggested 1?

    Its only a thought it might look OK or a big NONO only you can see the over all picture.

    I am trying to get away from the square pattern.

    I roughly filled in the first photo as there were too many distractions.

    You are on the right track it just requires a few moves to get it exactly what you want to have.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I've applied your suggestion and here are two results.
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    I have to say that tall stone in the middle looks very unnatural. I would not put it up that way at all. I hate to say it, but I would try and find some better hardscape materials or supplement the lack of character with those stones by using some driftwood.
     
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    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Totally agreed
    But I've already looked at the driftwood at my LFS and I wasn't really convinced that I'd find something to please the eye there. Again, I would do a driftwood raid by the side of the river that is really close to my place, but its still winter here and no chance I'm gonna dig the snow to find some wood :p

    The only slate left :
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    That's the moment I realise that designing an hardscape and also keeping in mind the planting pattern can be challenging and sometimes puzzling ..

    I'd better give a second chance to the LFS driftwood
     
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    start with the hardscape, forget about the plants for now. Get the hardscape then think of what plants would work with your design. Not always the best approach, but for this I think it would be best.
     
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  18. Ohly

    Ohly Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I think I've got something!!!
    Unless you think this is bad, I feel like I'm close to it!!
    Maybe the one large rock at the back is weirdly placed, but I feel like its nice and smooth :p


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    And if I try replacing the big rock at the back
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    Maybe I'm posting a bit too much tonight, but I'm working on the hardscape tonight and I like peoples opinions! So I share !!

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  19. keithgh

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    I was trying to work with what you had at the moment I did not like that tall rock but hoping to work around it some how.

    The flat topped rock is just not suitable sorry to say it does not blend in or match any other rock you are using.

    Then all of a sudden that last photo is looking good but I am sure a little improvement will make it a great Aquascape
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    One thing I would like you to try open a small pathway between those rocks slightly wider at the front this will give it a little bit of perspective.

    Keith:):)
     
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    I do like that one best as well Keith. Keep at it Ohly. I recommend Eleocharis belem for this scape. HC would be great, too...but it is tough to grow for many. Sometimes you have to pick the plant that will help you be successful.
     
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