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OD'ing staghorn-infested anubias with Excel

Discussion in 'Algae' started by dougz, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. dougz

    dougz New Member

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    I think I'm going to remove the anubias totally from the tank (relatively simple, as I just attached them individually to flat rocks..) and OD it with Excel, so I don't have to worry about the riccia I have in there, and can make sure the anubias are getting both barrels..

    How much should I dilute the Excel, if any? How long do I leave it in the Excel solution?

    Will I need to repeat the process several times?
     
  2. Shadow

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    not sure if excel effective for staghorn, it does effective for black beard algae. You can use syringe to spot treat.
     
  3. dougz

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    One way to find out, I guess.. :)
     
  4. hazelceleste

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    I treated some anubias nana for BBA with Excel a while ago. I pulled them out of the tank, brushed undiluted Excel on them with a qtip, and put then back in the tank. The algae died off a few days later, and the plants were fine.

    But like I said, that was BBA. I'm not sure if Excel works for staghorn.
     
  5. tirtha1979

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    How about a bleach bath?? I got a good result on BBA but not sure about staghorns. Make a 10% bleach solution and dip the anubias for 45 second. Wash it properly and put it back to tank. Hope it will also work on staghorn.
     
  6. dougz

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    I'll try the Excel first, then the bleach..

    Thanks for the feedback..

    I'll let you know what works (knock on wood).

    Here's some pics so you can decide if it's staghorn.

    Both pics are of the anubias. One's just with the flash on..

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    I never seen this much of Staghorn on Anubias. :eek: But I really doubt if the spot treatment will work on these vast area or not.
     
  8. Shadow

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    Wow that lots of algae, I will redo the whole tank if I were you.

    By the way before you try Bleach, maybe you want to try H2O2 first
     
  9. Al G. Begone

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    Woah nelly!

    you need to get going on the 25% bleach 75% water, and bring in a heft crew of hungry SAE's for a while.
    :nolook:
     
  10. dougz

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    That bad, eh? :(

    So an Excel bath wouldn't help?
     
  11. Al G. Begone

    Al G. Begone New Member

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    I am not positive about the Excel bath, I just picked some up yesterday and tried the same thing, but I don't have the infestation as bad as you do ans have to wait and see the results.
    I would rip that anubias out and bleach bath it, since it's a hardy plant it should be fine and you can easily place it in it's original position again.
    If it's growing worse each day I'd expect your riccia to be toast shortly.
    I'd also get a scrub brush of some kind and hit those rocks along with a vac at the same time. I'd get that stuff out of there, keep changing water, cut light a couple of hours and hold back on nutrients until this gets under control.
     
  12. tirtha1979

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    Controlling Staghorn On Anubias wont be a problem. But if you get other plants also infested, that ould be an alert. Cause fine leafed plants wount be able to take up Bleach or H2O2.
     
  13. dougz

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    Hmm..

    See, that's precisely what's been reccomended to me on the other forums such as APC and the Barr Report, to ADD nutrients in the form of an EI dosing regime, and that's what I've started to do, as well as up my CO2 injection.

    No mention of cutting back on light..

    My other plants have the staghorn on them as well, except for the stargrass and the riccia. The tennelus I've just been ripping out, and the A. reineckii just removing the leaves or trimming the stems down (the lower leves are unaffected, and the infestation IS worse where the plants get the most light, at the top of the tank, and out of the shade of the frogbit, for the tennelus).
     
  14. blue whale

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    i have staghorn in my hairgrass...what is the best way to get rid of it?
     
  15. Shadow

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    trim your hairgrass. That is the most effective way
     
  16. Carolina

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    Here is something I read that may help. Tex Gal at Planted tank shared it.
    1. 50% water change.
    2. Discontinue fertilizing altogether.
    3. Every day for 1 week add 1 gram of Kno3 every 50 gallons until there begin to appear Green Spot Algae.
    4. CO2 increase the maximum allowable by the aquarium (at least 35 ppm).
    5. Not diminish the lighting.
    6. Do not modify other variables.
    7. Manually remove the algae
    8. When the issue is solved or after 7 days, 50% water change.
    9. The amount of Kno3 you needed it achieve the GSA will be the amount you will use as fertilizing per week.
    10. About the others fertilizers, use 30% of the dose you were using.


    I think it would work for I got rid of BBA after accidentally over dosing with KNO3 and spraying plants with Excel. To spray I used a 4 oz bottle sold with bath water at Wall-mart.
     
  17. blue whale

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    thanks for the replies...i had done a 70% water change and a complete black out for 2days..also trimmed the infested hairgrass and have controlled my dosing...its under control now...although very few are there now.
     
  18. Carolina

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    Well then the imbalance must be from the light. Light and Co2 have to balanced. Sometimes it is nutrients due to water being treated by the Gov't to make drinkable for humans.
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