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"Moss and more"

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Matz, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi folks :),
    as I promised in my Green Dream-Post, I would like to show you my other small tank at home.
    It has 54L, a 2 x 55W Dupla Elektra II-Lamp on top:-", Filter is an Eheim EcoPro (600L/hour). A small Dennerle-lamp with 11W is added additionally along one small side especially for the two Rotalas and the Eriocaulons
    Used plants are:
    HCC, Pogostemon erectus, Weeping-, Flame- and Singapurmoss, Fissidens fontanus, Rotala mexicana "Goias", Rotala indica, Staurogyne repens, Pogostemon helferii, Eriocaulon sp. "australis", Blyxa japonica, Ranunculus papulentus; Limnophila spec. "Vietnam"; Riccia sp. "Dwarf", Anubias barteri nana; Schismatoglottis roseospatha; Bolbitis heteroclita "cuspidata".
    Inhabitants are:
    Some Caridina japonica and two Sphaerichthys osphromenoides.
    Pictures will follow as soon as I am at home tonight.
    I had some thread algae-probs nearly two month after setup, but reducing the light-time, rising up CO2 and NO3 and reducing the Fe-fert let me win this battle;).
    Pressurized CO2 is coming in with a glas-diffusor.

    Will be going on in time with some pictures,
    till later,
     
  2. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Sounds promising, can't wait to see the pics!
     
  3. Frosties

    Frosties New Member

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    Yeah - looking forward to it. I am particularly interested in seeing and learning about your Eriocaulon sp australis.
    Does it suffer the same huge thirst for fertilisers simalar to that of e. Cinereum?
     
  4. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi all,
    hi Juri and Tony!
    First of all, I'll start with the pictures from the begining until now:It was started in the end of June 2010
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    There had been some change of plants over this time only because of trying in growing different sorts.
    The "normal" Riccia had been removed, because it was not staying where it should be staying (the lattice was to big).
    Elatine triandra was growing too fast and invasive.
    Lobelia cardinalis "mini" was growing good, but wasn't good looking in that tank.
    @Tony:
    The Eriocaulon is nearly the same looking than E. cinereum. I got it under the name of E. sp. "australis" from my plantdealer, normaly I can trust him! It has the same requirements as the E. cinereum. I have fine gravel, mixed with a lot of loam as substrate.
    Fe is at 0,1mg/L, NO3 ca. 25-30mg/L, K ca.10-15mg/L, PO4 ca. 0,5mg/L.
    Magnesiumsulfate is added every week at waterchange (ca. 25L/2-3gr.).
    Temp.: 24-25°C.
    I hope I could answer your questions. If there are more, feel free to ask!
    I hope somebody enjoy the tank.
    In expectation for your replys,

     
  5. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi all,
    it's me again:talkalot:.
    I only want to show you a picture of the Eriocaulon sp. "australis", after talking so much about the requirements.
    Eriocaulon from the beginning till now (I could divide it into two):

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    Here's the Bolbitis heteroclita "cuspidata" (it beginns to grow now after 2 months of doing nothing):
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    and last but not least the Bucephalandra mötleyana (starting to divide in many little plants):
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    That's it. Now i'm quiet for a while:Timeout:
    Till then,
     
  6. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Hi Matz,
    thanks for posting all the photos - some of the plants really rare :113:
     
  7. lydia rose

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    amazing!
    how long have you been in the hobby?
    i wish i could afford all the plants, ans lighting...and ferts...
     
  8. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi Lydia Rose,
    I just started my first planted tank only 14 months ago.
    Before that I was "just" a fishkeeper for many years.
    My first (and bigger) tank you can see there: http://www.aquascapingworld.com/forum/aspiring-aquascapers/3934-green-dream.html.
    Thanks for your friendly words o:)!
    I guess I'm far away from being a good scaper, but for me it looks good and my first priority is still getting different plants growing good and getting some more experience in "how to do" all that best, or how to do in different ways.
    Hope to hear you again, if you have any questions, I'll try to answer as good as possilble.
     
  9. randy0319

    randy0319 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    great scape!! what is the plant growing through the netting?? Is it fissidens?
     
  10. Frosties

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    Thanks Matz for the information about the E. Cinereum... That is really interesting.

    Would you mind if I post your dosing details onto my webshop as many people ask what is required to keep these plants... Some have success others so far it has eluded them

    thanks

    tony
     
  11. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi Randy, Tony and all the others.
    @ Randy: yes it's Fissidens fontanus
    @ Tony: feel free to post the dosing details!
    I forgot to say something about CO2: my dropchecker is always green to yellowish (in this tank CO2 runs all over the time), must be something around 25-30 mg/L.
    Some user in my home-forum tried out E. cinereum and some failed, others not. We all have had similar conditions, plants were growing good, but some began to flower a lot and then dissolved. It seems that flowering is the begining of the end :-(.
    My (now) 2 plants didn't flower yet and I hope they won't do it for a longer time.
    Unfortunately I don't know what condition/s would be responsable for flowering or not.
    I hope that helps a bit for all enthusiasts, who will try out that plants (exept of E. cinereum they are not really cheap :money: ).
    I'm happy to hear you again :amillanbliss:
     
  12. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi folks,
    I made a new picture with a new plant.
    I got it from a friend: it's Ludwigia inclinata var. verticillata "Curly".
    Unfortunatly there's no other place to plant in none of the tanks I've running.
    But this is a good place for the plant, not even good for the scapeX-(.
    I know cutting is necessary :rolleyes: .
    Here's the picture:

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    and here a detail of the new plant:
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    It's real "curly"
    Hope to hear from you :tea:
     
  13. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Love the "curly",
    got a small snippet last time we were in Braunschweig
     
  14. Matz

    Matz Team Flowgrow

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    Hi Juri,
    me too, but it failed :sad: .
    Yesterday I got two big stems from Jan (Knispel). They look very good and healthy and I put one in the GreenDream, the other into Moss-and-more.
    I hope they will grow better then this small pieces we got in Braunschweig.
    What about my question about the here called Ammania sp. "Bonsai" (the real Rotala indica)?
    There's also Rotala mexicana sp. "Goias" B-) .
    Till then, thanks for posting again and again :=D> .
     
  15. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    you welcome my friend, kind of funny talking english to a German :D
    yes I´m interested, I was typing the answer to you as I had to go and I missed to continue. however, please send me some of the plants - I´m now all into new species.
    If you need mailing information please let me know.

    Take care
    Juri

    PS: I too failed on curly, but got few days ago some from, wanna gamble from who?`
     
  16. TenFingered

    TenFingered New Member

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    Incredibly weird inclinata!!!
    Matz, I'm dying for this plant. :frusty:
    Amazing!
     

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