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Help me with my 1st aquascaping

Discussion in 'General Aquascaping and Planted Tank Discussions' started by ady, Mar 11, 2016.

  1. jagermelifter

    jagermelifter Aspiring Aquascaper

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    is this planted yet? pics please


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    How are the rocks going?

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  3. ady

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    hi Jager
    I have received my plants from tropica. tomorrow i will do it.
     
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    IMG_20160321_233439.jpg IMG_20160321_233439.jpg
     
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    2nd one IMG_20160321_233431.jpg
     
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    from the above IMG_20160321_233341.jpg
     
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    The left side is ok but the right side besides the main rock it looks very weak. I have to improve it by buying to rocks to marry with main rock
     
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    and yes , obviously i have to buy 3 L of aquasoil to fill the gaps IMG_20160321_233316.jpg
     
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    Left side looks great, but could look excellent.

    Now the right side its not finished yet what ever you use will either create an excellent Aquascape or just another rock pile tank.

    Choices are very critical

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    LH side two choices rock 2 and 2 look as if in a row.
    Rock 1 move down a little and a whisker to the right.
    Rock 2 leave it where it is to act as a retainer but place one in front a whisker L or R which looks the best.

    RH side from the LH face of the back rock can you add more substrate and taper it all down to the front RH corner of the tank.

    Thinking out of the square for this one make that area including the rock at the back as RH side of photo below it just might work with out changing the pathway.

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    Cant thank you enough Mr Keith, you have been an exceptional guide in this adventure.
    On the left side there are 2 rows of rock: the first row is just acting as a retainer because the slope is too steep. The second one is different, i did it with one thing in mind: to plant between rock and the glass the glossostigma to create the idea that the plant (glosso) is 2 meter from the observer eyes and the rest (Cuba) since it is smaller it is too far from you ,creating more depth.

    Solution
    So, maybe i should move the left rock on front to the back just a little to have that little space for glosso or move the rocks on the first row to
    eliminate the symmetry making it more natural.

    On the right side , the rocks follow diagonal line of the pathway making the 2 sides very asymmetry not only in height. i don't intend to add more rocks on the front just on the back, (you can see it from the above picture)I just have to add more soil to create a slope.

    P.S On the right side i m going to put there maybe 1 or 2 little trees. I have never had a decent carpet so i donĀ“t intend to waste space with rocks. :D
     
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    I've mentioned a few times that I've been carefully reading through Amano's complete works book and the comments within. I have posted a similar picture many times before. In the book, Mr. Amano talks about the Japanese rock gardens and how he actually didn't like them much. He thought they looked too artificial and that he takes his inspiration from nature. I think this photo is trying to take terminology and methods from arranging a Japanese rock garden apply to Iwagumi....something Amano (the father of the Iwagumi) never intended. Anyways, it was an interesting moment for me as I had always thought this type of photo was an accurate depiction of how to do an Iwagumi. Turns out he thought about arranging stones differently and I think it is worth a share and considering. Take your queue from nature ;) This may be a "westernized" approach to trying to categorize and replicate the method.
     
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    You may have jumped the gun on me as soon as you posted the rock/s adjustments that was the next step "Trees" one solitary or 3 smaller ones close together would it or wont it work?

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Hi folks
    i am going to upload some pics . IMG_20160322_212228.jpg
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    Guys, more i read about DSM more concerned i get. It was all wonder but now i am not so sure because i have a lot of ground elevations and slopes.
     
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    yes. i m thinking about even number, maybe three little ones together on the right and perhaps one relatively bigger on the left.
     
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    from another perspective
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  19. J Art

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    Can't wait to see it fill in!

    Will the bit of hairgrass closest to camera in the 2nd photo be too tall in that particular spot? First impression is it's too close to the front for the height it will add. Just a quick observation.

    What kind of fish are you thinking for this setup?
     
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    Looking good. You planted very densely which is good. You can do a shorter DSM. What concerns you about the DSM?

    The front right has a lot of open space some hardscape there might be good to break it up.

    sent from tapatalk on my phone so auto correct and other errors are bound to happen
     
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