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Fluval Edge 6 gallon Bonsai Aquascape tank

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Ry120507, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Ry120507

    Ry120507 New Member

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    My wife and I are starting our 1st aquascape tank with a bonsai centerpiece. We received our tank but waiting on everything else which has given us time to do some research.

    We are planning on doing a dry start with low tech. We are using the stock filter but replacing our original 21 stock LED with the Fluval 12 gallon 42 LED.

    Our substrate is ADA Aquasoil will also be using some type of sand to make a beach since the lighting is strongest in the middle and not so much around the edges.

    Ordered 5 lbs of rhino skin stone and bonsai driftwood.

    Water- just our tap water with API conditioning.

    Only plant we have agreed upon so far is the Monte Carlo for the carpeting.

    I will keep this updated with pictures and post as we go.


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  2. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    You may consider investing in a co2 injection system if you want to grow Monte Carlo with success. Also, good choice going with ADA Aquasoil. It's worth it. I will strongly recommend Eheim Classic line filters and Hydor ETH inline heaters. Send pictures of the hardscaping materials when you receive them. We at ASW are best suited for aquascaping advice. Remember to take your time with hardscaping, and to not fear starting over.

    Do you have a way to adjust the intensity of your lights? This is very important to be able to do.
    Last question, do you know the standard procedure to "season" aquasoil so it is safe for fish and livestock?
     
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  3. Ry120507

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    HI Lucasgg since I was planning on Dry Starting for 4-6 weeks I have not invested in a CO2 injection kit but was looking at the Fluval mini CO2 which is cheap and instead of buying the Fluval mini tanks which can get expensive using mini paintball CO2 which are the same size. I haven't looked into the filter or heater yet because of dry starting but really appreciate the recommendation. Looks like the tank comes with a AquaClear 20 will this work ( i do plan on changing the existing impeller to the impeller used in the AquaClear 50 impeller number 634, this is a cheap and will change the flow from 100GPH to 200GPH

    I will definitely keep updating this journal with my material and progress.

    Regarding my lights, the pictures show the original stock lights (21 LED 3 watts) and I have purchased the 12 Gallon Fluval edge lights (42 LED 6W). I know this is still low light but plan on concentrating my plant life in the middle.

    Ive never heard of having to "season" the ADA Aquasoil thought I just poured it in :rolleyes: could you please explain this?

    Thanks!!!(y)
     
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  4. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    First off, dump the Hang on the Back Filter. It won't suit your needs. A good canister filter (Eheim 2211, 2213) will last you many tanks and offers much more flexibility, heating, and ascetical options such as glass inflow/outflow pipes. Plus, a HOB will direct water downwards into the soil which is a huge no-no as it will stir up aquasoil and encourage the release of ammonia and nitrates (yes, even in matured aquariums). Your lighting sounds good, but don't quote me on it.

    Basically, aquasoil is so nutrient rich that it will leach ammonia and nitrates like crazy in the first month before the nitrifying bacteria adapt. Ammonia excretion eventually slows down after the aquasoil has let it's enormous excess and once the filter medium has matured. During this period, almost any livestock will certainly die. Something like a pond snail will be fine. Don't add fish during this time!

    I would recommend changing about 40% of your water daily with a mature filter and 60% daily with an immature filter.

    Protip: be sure to clean you filter at least once a month to maintain optimum cleanliness and waterflow. I've missed almost 6 months and had a consistent algae issue ever since.


    Please be patient and don't rush anything. Rushing means mistakes, and mistakes mean more work. Think, research, and ask.


    Below are products which I personally use and would highly recommend. Don't let the price fool you. These are much more economical than cheaper, lower quality options. Also, the Eheim 2211 shouldn't be used for an aquarium larger than 20 US Gallons.

    https://www.amazon.com/Classic-External-Canister-Filter-Gallons/dp/B002DZNM4G
    https://www.amazon.com/Hydor-Line-E...id=1514939484&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=hydor+eth
    https://www.amazon.com/API-FRESHWAT...39513&sr=1-4&keywords=aquarium+water+test+kit
     
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    It looks like lucasgg has given you some excellent advice for you to follow.

    Do you have any Aquascaping photographs you have found in your research that has inspired you to aim to create in your tank.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  7. Ry120507

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    ADA Aquasoil actually came early so ill be ordering my plants tomorrow, picking up some sand at my LFS and we can get this tank going. Heres what i got today.

    ADA Aquasoil
    Bonsai drift wood
    Rhino stone

    I did dunk the bonsai drift wood and rocks in some cold water to make sure they were clean.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    Looks like you have some great hardscape material to start staging with. I usually setup the hardscape structure on my bed to experiment what looks best where. You may consider making a cardboard or wood box you can stage hardscape and substrate in. Heres how i planned after about a month of planning in my head and eventually drawing some stuff out.



    All photos are in chronological order, with the last being the most recent. Ignore my destroyed carpet in the last one :)

    Quick question: do you learn best by trial and error or by raw acedemic learning?
    Asking to better understand which way to aproach hardscaping basics. (I learned my hardscaping through raw struggle, constant correction, and a few tips from my dad who is an oil painter.) [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    lucasgg.

    You found out very quickly its not just a matter of putting something in a tank that looks nice. To get to your stage now its a lot of slow hard work and in the end its very rewarding.

    Its showing by the way you are now helping other members.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Finally put my hardscape together. Of course im going to change the sting holding the floating island to a fishing wire, just wanted to see how it looked. Let me know what you guys think.

    Also is it ok to have the substrare in the tank dry?[​IMG][​IMG]

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    Some photos that might help you from filipe oliveira the man that created the first tree scape. The majority are his, some are just ones on his facebook.

    You want all the rocks to be incorporated with the tree as the main piece. Right now it is a tree with surrounding rocks then a separate rock structure on the right. Right now it would seem weird to have a floating rock unless you were going for a scifi type look like avatar or something.

    There's probably too much white sand. If you want a path they usually aren't wrapped to the sides of the island.

    Moss on tree requires constant trimming, you might want to look into stems like monte carlo or rhizome like buce/anubias.

    The final photo is a photo of a bonsai I have set up.

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    Sorry I do not understand that question

    First point I wish you had done some planning in a Mock Tank then your hardscape would be the best you could do with the materials you have to work with.
    At the moment sorry to say it requires a lot of research work and planning to get a good Aquascape.

    On the plus side you have some very good hardscape and that is about all.

    LH a very nice piece of wood surrounded by a black substrate and what looks like very carefully positioned rocks, over all not appealing at all.

    RH a few rocks on a black substrate again un appealing.

    Every thing is surrounded by a very bright white substrate/sand which is going to be impossible to keep clean and away from the black substrate.

    Floating Island its a very long time since I have seen one in a tank it was very popular once.

    Its your tank in your home its up to you which way you go. Research, plan and start again or just carry on with what you have done.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Probably going to change it up one more time but this is how it sits as of now[​IMG][​IMG]

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    I think that would be a very good idea.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    hello, im a new aquarist (sp) and your tank is amazing!! from start to now i admire your diligence :$

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    Thanks risingmoney!! I definitely bought the wrong tank fluval edge 6 gallon due to only having strong lighting in the middle. Due to your positive feedback ill keep posting pictures of my progress.

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    So my Eleocharis sp. 'Mini finally came in and i rescaped my tank for the 3rd time and im pretty happy with it. Going to dry start till probably march 20th since thats when im going over seas for 2 weeks.

    My x-mas moss for my bonsai still hasnt come in so when that comes in next week ill post some updates on the tank.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  19. John Whatmough

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    It’s just a thought maybe the large rock rh side nudge in a little ,not seen many were the rocks are right up against the glass, but I am still learning so? Liking what you have done so far
     

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