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Discussion in 'Beginner's Corner' started by HenrySheehan, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. HenrySheehan

    HenrySheehan Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Do you mean the this one?[​IMG]

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    second one looks like it has a wall at the front

    still think
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    with some tweaks, but hard so say 100% without being there OFC
     
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    First Photo.
    It looks very central and if any thing the L&R end seem to balance each other making it not very interesting.

    Second Photo
    Please tell me you are not serious eight rocks in a row with one large rock at the back.

    Third Photo.
    Now you are getting somewhere. The DW leads you to the main feature rock VG.
    Three rocks LH good but too evenly spaced.
    Three rocks RH good but the centre rock could be moved towards the front RH corner.

    A few things for you to think about.

    One excellent reason for taking it slowly, you get one idea and think its perfect and keep going but if you waited a little I guarantee two days later you will have a totally different approach.

    One point many forget once its set up to the best you can do with the materials you have other than a little tweaking occasionally you could leave it set up for a very long time.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  4. HenrySheehan

    HenrySheehan Aspiring Aquascaper

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    thanks Keith, the 2nd with the rocks in a row was to have a kinda cliff faced idea with a beach effect at the front.

    The last one though is my favourite and I'll work on those points you've highlighted.

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    Zeus Active Aquascaper

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    Third
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    is also similar to

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    HenrySheehan Aspiring Aquascaper

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    It is very similar. Not sure which I like best, but the finished product will be one of these two in some form.

    I'm about two weeks out now from starting so a decision will have to be made soon.

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    Both have good possibilities.
    First photo, rocks RH side four in a lovely well planned curve.
    LH end three rocks just don't work together.

    Second photo, rocks under DW perfect do not change.
    Rocks LH side the centre rock try moving it forward or back so its not in a three rock row.

    The way you are proceeding I can see the end is very close.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    though of you when I seen this
     
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    That is a very interesting Aquascape.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  10. HenrySheehan

    HenrySheehan Aspiring Aquascaper

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    So the cabinet and tank arrived.

    This is my first attempt at it.

    Gonna leave it overnight and see what yer reactions are. And if positive, I'll start planting in the morning.[​IMG]

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    My only concern is that huge rock on the DW.
    1 It is very over bearing and, looks out of place.
    2 It will take up plenty of water space.
    3 It will certainly reduce the water circulation.
    4 Because of its large size you are losing all of you field depth.

    Then there is its your tank in your home and its up to you how you want it to look,

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  12. HenrySheehan

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    I don't know how I'd get it back out of the tank
    It's 40kg!!!

    I'll leave it for a while and see how it goes.


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  13. HenrySheehan

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    I don't know how I'd get it back out of the tank
    It's 40kg!!!

    I'll leave it for a while and see how it goes.
    I have it placed on top of stirafoam

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    Mabye try taking the large rock and putting it on the left leaning towards the DW to balance the scape? Right now its really unbalanced with everything pointing the same way. When I look at the photo I feel like I'm tilting to the side haha. Beautiful tank and stand.
     
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    Have to agree about the big rock o_O

    Hope the house is going to plan, you must be up to your neck in projects ATM
     
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    I think that the perspective is a bit interesting. It seems almost “2 dimensional”. I would try orienting the rocks and wood so that you are achieving more depth, banking the substrate more steeply will also help you achieve that.


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    That is a massive weight to have in one area. Over all when completed do you have any idea of the total weight, a Lt of water weighs 1Kg.

    Is there any thing between the top of the cabinet and the bottom of the glass, I always had at least a layer of 10mm of polystyrene foam. I am not referring to inside the tank.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Hi guys.

    Sorry bout late replys, been very busy as we only moved in last friday plus reception and Internet is crap in these new insulated homes!!

    So I had it all planted by the time I read all your advice! I've taken the wood out of it for the moment just to let the plants grow. I'm gonna keep the big stone in there? Will give it a while and see how it goes. I know it goes against a lot of your advice but anyone that'll be calling won't know anything about aquascapes so I'll get away with it....for now!!

    Planting took an age, wife said I looked slightly deranged by the end of it!

    I planted Montecarlo as my foreground plant with some Eleocharis acicularis behind the three stones on the left.

    Then I put some Hemianthus glomeratus in the back left corner.

    I put cryptocoryne wend till Grun in around the left of the back stone.

    I then have one pot of cryptocoryne beckettil at the front of the big stone which I hope will grow up between the wood.

    At the back middle - slightly left I planted Rotala rotundifollia. To the right of this directly behind the big stone I put Ludwigia Glamdulosa and then in the back right hand corner I planted Pogostemon Stellatus Special.

    Along the right hand side then I planted Alternanthera Reineckil Mini.

    And that was that.

    I have a pump that connects onto a drain that's at the back of the tank and it drains straight out the back of my house. I then have a hose within the cabinet.

    WC took no time with no lugging of water around.

    I'm going to do a 50% wc every day for week 1 then every 2nd day for week 2 etc etc. It's so easy to do them, very happy that I had the drain and plumbing done.

    I've my heater running at 26° and the inline Co2 defuser is up and running.

    Water is still cloudy. I haven't done any water tests as my wife went back to work today so I'm on child minding duty.

    As I'd been running the filters for the last two months, I'm hoping it won't take too long to cycle and I can get a few fish in before Christmas.

    I'm very happy with the cabinet. Its a aluminium stand with as you said Keith a good soft support. My LFS made the stand so I know it's up to the job. As it stands the tank weighs around half a ton.

    The cabinet then was made by the same guys that made my kitchen. Wife got a shock when I turned on the lights and she realised how bright they are. She's onto me now to cover over the whole tank, oh lord.

    Anyhow I thinks that's everything. Oh and Zeus I took your advice and sent back the light mounts. I then made up my own. Cost me 15 euro in total, compared to 160 pounds the ones I sent back cost. All the better if I end up covering the whole unit!!



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  19. HenrySheehan

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    There's my DIY wall brackets and there's the pipe for draining my water.

    Oh and there on the right if ye can make it out is the big stone
    I may plant something on him and make use of all that light!![​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  20. Zeus

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    Looks good, are you blasting the CO2 ATM?
    Spend this time to get your CO2 profile right, if you didn't get a pH pen. Get one and graph the pH change from CO2 on till lights off in 30min intervals. Getting a good CO2 profile which works well with lights is critical long term IMO, as it may be months down the line before a bad CO2 profile shows on the plants.

    What was the tank size and filter/pump outputs, ripple on surface doesnt seem like it may not be enough from your pic
     
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