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First iwagumi scape

Discussion in 'Critique My Aquascape' started by gio14, Nov 28, 2016.

  1. gio14

    gio14 New Member

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    Hi all,
    after a lot of search on internet and in this great forum here's my first iwagumi attempt.
    I will carpet with eleocharis mini, some staurogyne between stones and some blixya on the top right of the hill and behind the bigger stones... of course any comment is welcome 20161129_002253.jpg 20161129_001410.jpg
     

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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    The staurogyne might be too high for some of those small/low rocks, where as the eleocharis mini is a lower grower it will be more suitable.

    You have a good selection of rocks there, my only comment is the rocks seem to be in three distinct rows, in other words very carefully selected and positioned.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  3. gio14

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    Thank you keith,
    Being that I didn't give any information about the size of my aquarium your is a really interesting comment about plants height... (this thank is looking a lot smaller than what it is )

    Here's some info:
    115x60cm, 65cm height (55cm of water, it's a closed aquarium)

    The hill is 20cm hight starting from 4-5 cm
    Amazonia substrate

    2x 54w dennerle trocal led
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    Can you please suggest how to obtain a more natural look?

    Thanks
    Giorgio
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Certainly I can help you, I will write a reply and post it tomorrow.
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    As you can see with my red lines sloping not consistent. Long rows of rocks. All this makes it very hard to get a good eye flow. Enough said.

    What can be done If a good aquascaper was standing with you it would be far easier to show you rather than try to explain in detail what rock goes where.

    One big plus is you have a very good selection of size, shapes and textured rocks to work with and very close to the same number of rocks as well.

    http://fish-etc.com/aquascaping-main/create-an-iwugami-aquascape

    I strongly suggest you read "create-an-Iwagumi-aquascape" then use the picture I have posted for you with the stones you have, working from the left to the right to get a good eye flow not saying its the only way.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    thanks, now I can see the three lines you were talking before,
    I will read with care and try to rescape
     
  7. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Start by positioning your three main rocks.
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    These are the three I would use, try to show their best surface but no front on.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Ok, there's not much to play with number 3, I like it but you are seeing the whole stone (it's not covered by substrate) I've got another main stone but it has no character... anyway I'll play a little this evening (I think it's tomorrow for you, I live in Italy)

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    Its close to 7.40pm Wed

    Try both and see which looks best and post two photos please.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    I'll do my best and post some pictures, (anyway here is tuesday 9.45am) thanks

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    Tue 9.45am I was at a local Hospital getting test done.

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    I'm not sure I can rotate the main rock, it doesn't have any other interesting face, I will try to flip to have it pointing to the left ( I need to have the slope to the right, if I move the slope to the left of the aquarium when I enter in the room the first thing I see is the back of the aquascape...)
    I will also try a central slope or a flat substrate (higher in the back of course)
     
  13. Shane P.

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    The reason it looks small is due to the size of your rock. The larger the rocks, the more of an impression is given that the tank is larger.


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    I do think your stones are undersized for the scape you are attempting to create. Many times new scapers try to get all the height with the substrate built up and do not get large enough stones. I would suggest getting a few larger stones to create a Iwagumi style layout.

    Another option would be to use the stones to set up small "islands" among a carpet where you use taller plants to get the height and volume you are lacking from your stones.
     
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    It's not easy to find large stones here(and really expensive)... the larger is 50cm hight, I will try different layouts
     
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    Then, it may be difficult to create an iwagumi. If you look at images of iwagumi layouts by takashi amano, he utilizes amazingly large stone that creates the necessary impression of scale. Maybe try your local landscaping supply store, as they may have bulk rock for cheap. If you do decide to go that route, make sure to purchase stones that are inert.
     
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    Shane P. Moderator Staff Member

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    Here is a good link about rock and rock collection in general:



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    Here's a new scape inspired by the article keith suggested me (7 rocks)[​IMG]

    The same with 9 stones
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    Giorgio

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  19. Shane P.

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    The foreground feels unnaturally open IMO


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  20. Shane P.

    Shane P. Moderator Staff Member

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    But then again, it is your tank. Do what you feel looks best. We won't be the ones looking after it everyday. You will.


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