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End of Summer (300l) - Planted tank

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by joptoaz, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. joptoaz

    joptoaz New Member

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    So the summer ended and with it my vacations,
    I decided to setup my new tank, and although some problems with the co2 hardware, here it goes.
    Im still waiting for some plants to fulfill what i want to do with this aquascape.
    Hope you guys enjoy it.

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    Plants:
    BLYXA JAPONICA
    ELEOCHARIS SP. MINI
    ELEOCHARIS PARVULA
    MARSILEA HIRSUTA
    HEMIANTHUS MICRANTHEMOIDES
    MICRANTHEMUM "MONTE CARLO"
    FISSIDENS FONTANUS
    GLOSSOTIGMA ELATINOIDES
    Cardamine lyrata
    Hottonia palustris
    Lilaeopsis brasiliensis
    Microsorum pteropus 'Narrow'
    Staurogyne repens

    Some "Bad boys" [​IMG]
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    And this is how the day ends.
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    Regards
    Jo
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Great photos

    The biggest concern I can see with your Aquascape is it looks like two separate Aquascapes in one tank.

    See if you can tie the two ends together.

    Keith:):)
     
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  3. joptoaz

    joptoaz New Member

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    Hi keithgh,
    I had difficulties in finding wood and the two have different shapes.
    I'm hoping plant growth and also the arrival of other plants in to the front spots will help to correct that detail.
    Lets see how it develop
    Cheers
     
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    Shadow Moderator Staff Member

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    Finding wood or rocks is always the toughest part in Aquascape. After a while you will have pile of unused material somewhere in the corner of your house :LOL:
     
  5. joptoaz

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    Some diatom algae (or brown algae) has showed up.
    I did a major trim in the affected areas and improved the flow distribuition.

    just a quick video after this major trim.
    Sorry for shaky camera...film its not my best :)

     
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  6. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Any luck in finding the bits and pieces to fill in that gap?

    Here is a simple suggestion and you have all but the DW there in your tank.
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    See if you can find 3 or 4 of those small rocks placing the smallest at the back of the tank.

    1 or 2 small twiggy piece of DW over/back of those rocks or even in the front.

    Fill in the gap it created with a few of those small bushy type of plants.

    Warning what ever you do, do not place the stones in a straight line.

    Just a few ideas to help you out without costing you any money at all.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, thanks for the idea, i really appreciate it.
    This weekend i already put Eleocharis acicularis exactly in that spots you have in the picture, i just trimmed it and now they have to adapt and grown :)
    i like the idea of the rocks also, ill try it.

    I had also the ideia to put in the front right some anubias nana petite filling and making the transition from the carpet and the high part of the dw, but i only found acicularis.... what do you think about this nana petite idea?

    I'm just struggling right now with the normal initial brown algae, but will try to update soon.
    Thanks
     
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  8. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks like I was writing this post when you posted your reply.

    Leave the Anubia until you remove all the algae as it can be a very slow grower, especially the petite.

    I edited the above extra in.

    Its good to see you like it but can you do it with what you have?

    I have marked 4 rocks that I think could be easily moved 2 front RH and 2 front L H sides.

    The little bare spots will be quickly covered over with your fore ground plants.

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    Keith:):)
     
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  9. joptoaz

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    I managed this:
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    acicularis is there near the rocks also.
    The brown algae seems to be going worse, i have now:
    >Only 1 bulb 54w (6500k) on for 7,5H at 8,5cm from top
    ->Fluval 406 with purigen and making a nice flow around the tank and carpet.
    ->Normal E.I fertilization with kno3, kh2po4, and trace elements
    ->co2 stars 1,5h before light go on and ends 1h before lights go off.
    ->Dropchecker light green
    ->very few stock like 20 small fish.
    ->setup is almost 5 weeks and all was going pretty well until brown algae showed up.
    ->50% water change per week.
    ->tank 120cm*50cm*50cm

    Is anything im doing wrong or any suggestion that could help?
    Thank you
     
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    This is a nicely developing tank.

    @Shadow , your comment is dead on...my utility room is full of stones and wood by now. They just start piling up! :O

    @keithgh , You have been improving your paint skills! I'm waiting to see an entire concept piece from you done in paint ;) I agree with that suggestion, good eye. I like to see these types of scapes lead into a near or slight overlap from one in region in the midground with the other in the background...really builds depth.
     
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    Thanks ShadowMac, lets see..im worried about this brown algae situation but i guess thats normal in the begining
     
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    It'll run its course and be gone. I've had bad diatoms a couple times and they eventually go away. Some are lucky enough to avoid it...usually by using established filters, some old substrate..things like that which prevent the cycling
     
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    I have few more suggestions for you to improve on what you have just done.

    The back rock I have moved it further to the right to close that gap up a lot more making it looking far from two Aquascapes now.

    I also moved that rock from the front to close that gap in, if you can not move that small front rock see if you can find another one.

    Position it slightly forward for added shape and avoid a straight line of the LH rocks.

    Once that is done it will be a sit back, watch it develop then admire what you have achieved.

    Keith:):)


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    While I was having my dinner I though of an idea that "might" also give a greater illusion of greater depth.
    1 lower the last stone 75%
    2 lower the rock in front 50%

    I turned the computer on then I thought of something even better but a little more work for you and in the end I am positive it will be far better.

    Lift the substrate and plants up so covers 50% of the last rock but leaving the front as it is now.
    I photoshoped it to give you an idea of what it will look like.
    Also see if you can move that last rock a few Cms to the right this will give a greater depth of field by closing that gap up a little more too much will kill the effect and not enough just will not give you the illusion of depth of field..

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    Keith:):)
     
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    Small update:
    Major trim again to improve flow...still working on this ;)
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    I do not know what you have done but it now looks like you have widened the path at the back and it is starting to look like two separate Aquascapes.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Nice scape, beautiful fishes! =)
    One thing, in my opinion, the center is a little bit empty! ;)
     
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    hi, you are right, i have small branches that i took from there until the carpet is closed, then i'll put them back again. Cheers
     
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    nothing really, just changed the back rock like you told me last time and now just did local trims because there are dead spots.
     
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    This is what it requires to close that gap up so it will not look like two Aquascapes.

    With the aid of Photoshop I stretched the RH side towards the LH side.

    Keith:):)
     
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