So, I'm already starting another tank! And this time, I will have a huge budget compared to what I have been struggling with. I'll give you all some background. By this time, I would say most of you know about my tank journal "A Rocky Garden". Its been a long time since I started that tank. When I firt started it, my neighbor would come over and look at it when she came over (mabye once a month). And she always liked the fish and the plants. So after I came over to ASW and rescaped my tank, she had her first grandchild (girl). So she would bring her over to look at the fish. However... all my fish were in a plastic tub sitting on the floor. Mrs. Veronica did like looking at the dry started tank, even though there wasn't much to look at. I flooded the tank recently. I think its been about 2 weeks but I would have to check. My plants are doing well and growing in though. So she came over with her grand-daughter and was absolutely WOWED by my tank. I told her I wasn't finished, I still had some finished touches such as finishing the sand and finishing stocking. Long story short, she asked me to make her a tank. She wants me to put together a presentation on the cost, and a timeline, and she needs to know how big the cabinet will need to be. Her husband will be building it. I also have put into it some of the major types of aquascaping - Iwagumi, Nature, Jungle, Dutch, then Island. She said she really liked the carpet, and also the way the rocks and plants "went together". So I'm going to make a prediction that she probably is going to go the Nature route. Each of the categorys has 4 pictures. I'm going to show those to her, and then ask her what she liked about them. Then I'll sort of mix and match. However, I'm really hoping she will just say, scape it however you want, so I can get in there and play with the hardscape however I see inspiration. If she wants iwagumi... well, I guess I will be buying some rocks! Here's my cost so far. This is variable though. For instance, if she doesnt want micro bubbles from an inline atomizer then I will go with my diffuser. That would take away $20. If she wants sparsely planted or heavily planted that could be a lot. Canister filter I'm planning on another Penn Plax Cascade 1000. That's what I have, its very sturdy, easy to use, and its also the cheapest. Heater Eheim Jager 100 watt. I'm going to tell her if she wants I can make it far nicer, its just going to cost more money. In that case, inline heater, lily pipes, rimless tank. (Does anyone know how much a rimless tank in the 15-25 gallon range is?) CO2 I'm going the paintball route with a quality regulator and solenoid on it. I will probably 2 so I can just switch them out and not have to worry about getting a refill the day it goes out. Ferts are for EI dosing. 1 lb of K, N, P, and CSM+B. Substrate ADA amazonia. Lighting - right now I'm planning on the Finnex 24/7 Planted Plus. If she wants it cheaper - I can reduce lighting, not get higher light plants, carpet with monte carlo, and use Excell instead of CO2. Basic Equipment: $440 Tank - $20 Canister Filter - $75 Heater - $30 Thermometer - $7 CO2 - $150 Light - $90 Ferts - $30 Substrate - $40 Fish Food - $15 For extra costs I have this. I'm not sure how much stones would be if I needed to buy them... I was assuming max of $50 is that about right? Same with the driftwood if she wants it it would be that price range? Plants - $25 cheapest if she goes iwagumi or sparsely planted with just a carpet that will buy 5 pots of a carpeting plant. I figure $100 would buy plenty of plants for any. Extra Equipment: Plants - $25 to $100 Fish - $25 to $100+ Stones - Free to $50 Driftwood - $15 - $60 I'm going to talk to her some time this week - figure out what kind of tank she wants, give her a rough range of price, and then once I know what she wants, I can come back and make a detailed budget and timeline. Sound good? Anything I'm missing?