Does anyone actually think that Amano and the other judges will say that any scape that enters the competition is not art? Would you see any elite artist say to another person that what they see in front on them is not art? The answer would be a resounding NO at both questions. I still maintain that if something influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect then it is art, very simple! From wikipedia, so you can see that the idea is generalized: Art - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Disputes as to whether or not to classify something as a work of art are referred to as classificatory disputes about art. Art is sometimes perceived as belonging exclusively to higher social classes. In this context, art is seen as an upper-class activity associated with wealth, the ability to purchase art, and the leisure required to pursue or enjoy it. The Palace of Versailles and the Hermitage in St. Petersburg illustrate this view: such vast collections of art are the preserve of the rich, of governments and wealthy organizations. Fine and expensive goods have been popular markers of status in many cultures, and they continue to be so today. There has been a cultural push in the other direction since at least 1793, when the Louvre, which had been a private palace of the Kings of France, was opened to the public as an art museum during the French Revolution. Most modern public museums and art education programs for children in schools can be traced back to this impulse to have art available to everyone. Museums in the United States tend to be gifts from the very rich to the masses (The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City, for example, was created by John Taylor Johnston, a railroad executive whose personal art collection seeded the museum.) But despite all this, at least one of the important functions of art in the 21st century remains as a marker of wealth and social status. Your comments are trying to bring elitism to the aquascaping hobby, and you may not bee the only one, I have seen it with my own eyes, and that I can assure you that most people on this forum will fight it. You say that you been keeping fish for 28 years. You may think that it is a lot, but it isn't that much, I have been keeping fish tanks for almost 30 years, and I am still learning everyday, and I believe that I will continue to carry on learning on this hobby. Do not see this a personal attack on you, I do not believe that Andy or the others would do such thing. We all need to ensure that aquascaping is open to all, and most people should enter competitions, if not to match themselves against other styles, but to also show to the judges that there is more there than what they are aware of.