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Discussion in 'Beginner's Corner' started by Beagle, Jul 23, 2017.

  1. ShadowMac

    ShadowMac Moderator Staff Member

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    If you are planting anubias and ferns you do not need aquasoil. How about some small crypts with anubias and moss on the branches and skip the ferns? A carpet of eleocharis parvula and monte carlo mixed. Maybe even mix in some clumps of C. parva

    Oh and when doing #3, you only really need an inch of substrate at the front, then slope it to about 4-6 " in the back.
     

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  2. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    At the moment your are undecided on your planting and for that reason I would prefer the ADA Substrate. Another reason if and when you decide to change your plants you will already have the quality substrate.

    Its your tank this is an alternative Substrate that can be used.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  3. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Okay,

    I'm thinking of trying eleocharis parvula as a background/carpet plant, anubias as the star around the base of the DW, and then moss accents on the tips. At least all of that can be a starting point, I do like the look of C. parva, but I think I'm going to simplify things for my own sake for now. :p

    After trying some online shopping -- any opinions on ADA's normal vs. powdered substrate options? There's just so many options out there for a newbie. :ROFLMAO:
     
  4. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Also, I doubt I'll be able to recreate this, but here's what I've got in mind for a 'final scape' -- although I'll try to shift it over a smidge more to the left in the end. It's close I think!

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  5. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    With an Aquascape like that many do it centrally and by doing that is can become uninteresting. Just off centre is far more pleasing to the eye.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  6. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    While I'm working on getting substrate together (planning on straight ADA amazonia and supplementing with liquid ferts later on), I of course continued to play around with hardscape. Different approach... think I like the earlier version as it compliments the rocks more...? Thoughts?

    Leaning towards hair grass and monte carlo... although I've always been afraid of them b/c of being new at this...


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  7. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    This Aquascape works with the rocks where as the last one looks rather heavy and over done with the DW.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  8. ShadowMac

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    If you can get more wood like this it would be of great help. It is a nice piece...but needs some friends to fill the space well. I am partial to your first version.
     
  9. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I see what you guys mean. I think the first scape is more forgiving/covers up my lack of outstanding driftwood choices. I have ada amazonia on the way, but below is my sketch of the final scape and plant choices. :ROFLMAO:

    At base of DW: anubias nana petite, back ground: dwarf hairgrass, bottom/around stones: monte carlo.

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  10. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    A few twiggy pieces "Could help" but I would wait until the plants are established it will look totally different then.
    Don't fall into the trap and cover up the base area of the DW as its a focal point feature of your Aquascape.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  11. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Keith,

    I think I understand what you mean by trying not to cover up the focal point... but I'm wondering how that's possible given the small scale of the scape? Where else would I utilize the anubias without covering up some if not a majority of the DW base? If you happen to have any other scapes (pictures) in mind I'd be happy to see them. I've been trying to spend some time looking at other somewhat similar scapes with mediocre success.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  12. ShadowMac

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    Beagle, how much in depth critique are you looking for? What is your goal for this scape?

    Once you answer that I will be happy to go into a critique aimed specifically at trying to get you there. Also...see if you can find more of that wood. Its a nice piece and you need more. Forget the twiggy pieces...you need some things that will carry a bit of weight in the scape. If you can't...no worries I still think it can work.
     
  13. keithgh

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    Can you get much in the way of suitable DW by twiggy I do not mean match thin something with a b it of body yet not overly heavy so it can become the main feature piece. When you are buying the DW take the photo with you and check to see if you can get a full refund if it does not suite your design.

    Plants would some of the low Crypts work in with the DW? What plants are you thinking of behind the DW?

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  14. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I guess my goals here are to just have a solid scape, but I'm mainly focusing on healthy plant growth in the end. I'm not expecting to end up with an IAPLC-worthy tank. :p Just one that makes me happy/proud to look at!

    I'm happy to work on improving it some, after all I'm trying to take my time and get it all set up now before anything goes in the water. I guess I'm not sure what you guys mean by adding more decent sized DW in this tank... it feels like it's running out of space! I was planning on covering up the majority of the current DW base with the anubias, and behind the DW using dwarf hairgrass.

    I'll keep searching through some other pictures/past IAPLC winners to try and pick up on what you guys mean. If I end up getting any more DW it will have to be online (not that that's a problem).
     
  15. keithgh

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    Consider the DW you have in the tank at the moment as a mix of heavy (1 Vertical piece) and the others all medium to light (that is a personal opinion) others might call them totally different. Working from that a similar mix might work in very well. Its the positioning that is the most important and only you have the best view of that.
    In other words the same piece could look fantastic in one location but everywhere else it just does not work or do any thing for your Aquascape.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Can't wait to see this planted.
     
  17. Beagle

    Beagle Aspiring Aquascaper

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    With the goal of having a bit more of a balanced scape, I'm toying with the idea of adding some more DW that will extend from the base of the current piece and aim down along the stones (trying to make it look a bit like roots rather than all of them pointing upwards like they are now). The recent "Tangled Roots" post gave me some inspiration!

    Hard part is knowing if something like Spiderwood will go well with my current piece color-wise... I like it's overall shape, so I'm keeping an eye out for a good piece(s).
     
  18. keithgh

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    That might work for you just be very careful with your choices of DW. The hardest part is getting the right shape and not to big as if to dominate all the hardscape you have there now.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  19. ShadowMac

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    mixing wood generally isn't too big of a deal...stones however are a different story.

    I know it might feel like you are running out of space...however one of the biggest and most frequent mistakes made by new scapers and intermediate scapers is using far too little and too small of hardscape.
     
  20. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Then there is the opposite cramming far to much into a tank.

    A Japanese Zen aquascape only the mimimium is used but its how it is used
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    Keith:cat::cat:
     

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