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45L almost nature tank - starting point

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Cip, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Check this out. What are my chances of creating something like this ? :))

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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes if you think you are very experienced and capable of laying it out.

    Collecting all the DW, not the sizes

    One question how are you going to keep all those pieces upright?

    Note the perspective its perfection one piece not correct and you will not get the same effect.

    A few things for you to think about.

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  3. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    this will be a real issue.
    rocks and substrate, and some plastic holder in the substrate.
    It doesn't have to be the same, I found some images from a natural forest that I want to re-create :).

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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Perspective is extremely important in any scenery aquascape its there permanently that is what gives us the distance and vanishing point.

    Without it an Aquascape would look like an average non interesting aquascape and I guarantee you would be pulling it down about 1 year later.

    I am not trying to discourage you at all what I am trying to do is the total opposite push you along to create something you never thought possible.

    Its the old trade teacher still in me.
    Remember this Near enough is not good enough, therefore good enough is not near enough, and only your best will do. Keith: many years ago.

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  5. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    This should be in a book man :), I'm telling you.

    I'm not easily discouraged so don't worry :), I have a talent on fixating over things, not OCD or anything just too stubborn, the only downside is that when I pull it out the stubborness fades away.

    Yep, I found out the hard way :)), I'm saying this looking back at what I did with my current tank, the hardscape took less then 30min., I see journals with week of hardscape tries and the people with tons of experience not a rookie which just started.

    I need to understand the basic principles of a composition first and practice. And of course, work less and go out into the wild more and see how mother nature does it :).
     
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    Its actually a very simple Aquascape but its full of technical how to do detail work.

    Work slowly towards making something like that and in the meantime hunt for all the DW.

    As far as securing the DW I think you are way of the mark.

    One good method is often used but not on that scale.

    I have used it my self and often recommend it.

    It could end up one big head ache getting it to perfection.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    jagermelifter Aspiring Aquascaper

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    might help


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  8. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Nice tank @jagermelifter, yours I asume. What LED lights are those? What do you use for substrate ?
    Nice looking carpet, pressurized CO2 addition ?
     
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    yes its my 3rd tank since i got back into the hobby 2 years ago. im running 2 lights side by side, current led plus and the plus pro version. c02 injected. for the substrate, its a mix of amazonia and the fluval shrimp. sadly im gona tear this tank down when the new one comes as theres a few things i want to change from the setup. time to learn new things!


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  10. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I wondered how you growed that carpet :), now I understand, good light, good substrate and good lights.

    Can you tell me how much it cost ?

    Why 'sadly'? each ending is a new beginning :)
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Cip very good posting.

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    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Yes its very interesting but its extremely heavy for such a small tank.

    It would look more interesting if every thing was far lighter and balanced better.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I agree with you, and I imagine that the maintenance is a pain with all the things cramped up like that, anyway it looks really interesting but like you said in a bigger tank with a bit more space either in front or in the middle, a concave shape with those branches on the edges going through to the back of the tank, like a tunnel.
     
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    Yes at the moment its not very interesting to look at.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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    I saw a tank once that was similar. The guy used "lucky bamboo" instead to simulate a forest. Had some driftwood in it as well. Almost gave the appearance of an old growth forest

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    Dracaena braunii is a species of the genus Dracaena. It is also known as Dracaena sanderiana, after the German–English gardener Henry Frederick Conrad Sander.Wikipedia

    If you mean this plant I believe it only has a very short tank life and is not suitable for Aquariums.

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    Hey keithgh,

    It might be that type, I did use lucky bamboo in my aquarium to help with nitrates. I had it in my current one for nearly four years. It grew incredibly thick and tall. Didn't seem to suffer any ill effects

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    I have never used in an Aquarium I am only going by reports on Forums I have been connected with.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  20. Cip

    Cip Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I have a surprise for you guys, I've bought from a fellow aquarist a 50x30x30 tank, got a good deal on it. I'm not showing it though until I clean it up, it's a mess due to transportation. Only thing I could say is that it will be a shrimp only tank.

    This journal will get new details and a new title as soon as it is ready for pictures :).
     

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