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45 lt Bay View Window Tank Terrarium Journal

Discussion in 'Ripariums & Paludariums' started by keithgh, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Its neither a Aquascape, Riparium or a Plaudarium its a Terrarium

    Note starting date.

    Jan 29th 2011

    45 lt Bay View Window Tank Terrarium Journal

    This my 45lt Terrarium Journal.

    Question what to do with a good well cared for 45lt Bay window tank, which has in my opinion a fantastic Asian painted base.

    I realised I would not get very much if I sold it.

    What to do?

    Power outlets a huge problem practically fully loaded as it is.

    That means another tank is out 110% and no discussion entered into.

    I was thinking of a Terrarium type but which way to go I did not want any water in it at all.

    One thought was a dry river bed type?

    General type Terrarium but that's not too plain (I once had a 4ft x 2ft x18ins Terrarium)

    the backing and the two sides (not the Bay Windows) will be the artificial rock wall type as for Aquariums.

    I know where I can get twiggy Grape Vine at a good price; this will glued to the backing as if growing on a cliff face.

    The focal point 1/3rd from LH side and 2/3rds from the front will be another golden vine type.

    On the substrate there will be several pieces of very old rough DW to give me at least two levels.

    Plants lower level will be mainly small low "Carnivorous type"

    The rock wall and the twiggy bits will all have "Air growing plants"

    OK what about lighting??

    I can get a twin T5 2ft unit from a Hydroponic shop no problems at all

    How does all this sound????


    Feb 10th 2011

    Things are moving very slowly with this tank possibly a lot slower than I wanted.

    I went to a LFS pet store to buy some air line tube and walked out with this just over $20.

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    I have plenty of red rocks any way but this is perfect.

    Next came the backing.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, I have been waiting for this one:D
     
  3. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    I thought you would have.

    Its so close to getting the plants now. FINALLY

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, Hope all go's well this time ;) Bet you cannot wait to get this one going:D Are you picking up the plants or having them sent to you.?
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    I think the grower will be at a local market very soon I have to check first and that about a 10k drive.

    If I can get a lift its a pick up if not ?????

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, Lets hope you can get a lift (y)
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    I found this backing at a small LFS/pet shop only $13 too hard to resist.

    It is not exactly what I was looking for as what I was wanting extremely expensive and possibly Internet buying only (sight unseen).

    What I intend to now is brush an adhesive over the board and sprinkle a fine layer of a 1-3 mm mixed natural river stone substrate.

    I contacted Selleys (adhesive manufacturer) and he recommended the "Exterior PVA Aqua here" would do the job perfectly

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    The cheap Styrene Foam backing.

    Fixing it to the back glass of the tank easy "Selleys Sat 12th Jan 2011
    Liquid Nails" Mirror-Metal-Glass.

    There are two basic ways I can have,
    1 Fixed straight on to the glass
    2 Fix it so that it has a slight slope (drawing full size)

    The reason for the slope would be there will be several "Tillandsia" living air plants glued to the backing and will occasionally require a misting to freshen them up and use a liquid Fert

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    This is Spanish moss it will also be draped over the backing and parts of the Driftwood.

    Feb 21st 2011

    The Terrarium is moving along slowly but a steady progress is being made.

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    The foam pieces are silicone on using Selly’s Liquid nails mirror & Glass, as recommended by then.

    It is a tapered cut from 0mm-25mm, this will give the back wall a more natural look plus a better drainage when I mist spray the Living Air Plants “Tillandsia”
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    This is only a temporary holding to see how it looked.
    The corners were a bit difficult I had to shape the side pieces so that there were no gaps; it was a simple file and glass paper job until it fitted.
    The 100mm gap around the base of the foam is for a special substrate for the ‘Living Stone Plants”
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    I used an exterior PVA to stick some fine substrate on as a test it looked OK but not what I wanted. Today I went to several landscape gardeners and picked up a few kg of different colours and sizes of gravel. At the moment it is outside drying out after a good washing.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, Looking Good :cool: Neat idea with the gravel glued on the backing (y)
     
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    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Who would want that as a backing in any sort of tank certainly not me.

    It will not be in water or for fish and therefore it will not be a concern.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Yesterday I hunted two Garden Suppliers and collected several litres of gravel mixed sizes and colours.

    I also collected a few small rocks to scatter under the cliff faces.

    All I had to do was to brush Selly's Exterior PVA over the Styrene Foam mould and just cover it all over. WRONG I had to go back and add more PVA and gravel to fill in the gaps.

    I also had to do the ends of the two side pieces.

    Then take of the stones that stuck where they should not back edges.


    Sept 13

    There has been a massive hold up due to several health issues, I still have to make the tubular frame work for the light (which I have)

    As soon as I get that done I will be buying all the plants.


    Nov 25th

    Today I went to a local commercial Carnivorous plant grower.

    I took the Terrarium with me plus a plan drawing.

    It took about 1hour to work out what went where as there must have been 1000s of plants to choose from.

    Once we (excellent helper) worked out what would be the most suitable (established size, shape and colour) I honed in on the softer reds to give an over similar appearance.

    I thought that piece of Gold Vine (driftwood) would be a whisker too big, in an instant without thinking I turned it on its end and perfect exactly what I wanted.

    As I had the Terrarium with me it was very easy to plan it all out some worked and others totally unsuitable (too tall, too big, or too red).

    1 Sarracenia leucophylla XX Courtii F. Northern ‘red’

    3 Drosera (taller different varieties)

    6 Dionea (small low variety)

    3 Dionea (taller and darker variety)

    When it was finished (Photos) I heard a few comments on how we had set it up.

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    When it came to the cost I was very pleasantly surprised compared to the prices I had seen at a few garden suppliers.

    I will be setting up a Under Gravel Filter (Photo) system so that when I water the plants (via a tube) it will be under the peat moss

    Next few days I will be setting up the light frame, and then start the planting.

    Keith :):)
     
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    Hi Keith, Looking Fab:rolleyes:
     
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    Its now Nov 2013

    Just after that last photo we had a massive heat wave then too much rain.

    I thought I had them in a cool location in my fernery BUT NO the heat got to them first then the rain drowned them completely.

    I had no hope of replacing every thing too late in the season so it was put of until Nov 2013.

    I was hoping for a lift to a local market to get all the replacements but that did not happen.

    It looks like I will have to order on line now as they are a 30min drive and no public transport.

    I have altered the light stand design and it will be a lot easier to make and less bulky.

    Its a 4 unit T5 I will have it set up with a timer (hrs ???) I have to check all that out again.

    Keith:):)
     
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    Its now Nov 2013

    Just after that last photo we had a massive heat wave then too much rain.

    I thought I had them in a cool location in my fernery BUT NO the heat got to them first then the rain drowned them completely.

    I had no hope of replacing every thing too late in the season so it was put of until Nov 2013.

    I was hoping for a lift to a local market to get all the replacements but that did not happen.

    It looks like I will have to order on line now as they are a 30min drive and no public transport.

    I have altered the light stand design and it will be a lot easier to make and less bulky.

    Its a 4 unit T5 I will have it set up with a timer (hrs ???) I have to check all that out again.

    Keith:):)
     
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    This is the light I will be using now.

    It will be attached to a piece of glass Siliconed to the side of the Terrarium as it advisable to have the light 50cm above the soil level
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    36 WPL

    Keith:):)
     
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    Hi Keith, All starting to come together now :D
     
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    Roy

    I will have to get all the plants in Jan (local market) or on line which I do not want to do.

    Keith:):)
     
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    crossing my fingers(y)
     
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    Hi Keith, Local market is better as you can pick the plants you want :D And Jan is not that far off ;)
     
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    The Glazier is only a short 10 minute walk from the bus stop.

    First chance I will go there and order the glass to the size and thickness I require.

    I will be taking the light mounting bracket with me just to be on the safe side.

    Keith:):)
     
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    A big change is about to happen, the wife has told me she would like the “Indoor plants” instead of the “Carnivorous plants” which are becoming harder to buy as I am not driving to select what I require.

    This is the tank and light I will be using

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    Here are the designs I am looking at in no particular order.

    I can get these plants locally at the local Hardware/Garden store

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    It's not the cost or challenge it's just picking the correct one and work towards it.

    Keith:):)
     

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