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Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Orlandog7, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. Orlandog7

    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Hello everyone. This is my new journal for my 20 gallon long. When I started aquascaping, my first attempt was to create a mountain scene; I failed. I was advised here to try an Iwagumi style as that would teach me alot. In this new scape, I'm trying the mountain scene again; albeit with a twist. My inspiration is Dennis Wong's 4ft ridgeline:


    Your constructive criticism will be much appreciated. Currently I would like feedback on the rock selection and placement. The white substrate will be replaced by aquasoil.

    Here is what I have so far:
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    Thanks!

    Orlando
     
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  2. keithgh

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    Over all I like it very much and has great possibilities with just a few minor changes nothing major.
    I also blackened the white substrate.
    Here are a few suggestions for you.
    Rock 3 shape and location all OK I would like to see it a little higher could you pack underneath it?
    Rock 2 is it a separate rock or is it attached to Rock 1?
    If its attached do you have a rock very similar to Rock 1?
    I would like to see Rock 1 moved forward a little.
    RH side is it possible to have a little gap to break those three rocks up and not look like one big rock.

    Keith:cat::cat:

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    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Thanks for the feedback @keithgh here it is flooded. Further feedback is still much appreciated!

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  4. keithgh

    keithgh Moderator Staff Member

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    Here are a few suggestions again, reason being the front of the Aquascape looked too heavy/over crowded.
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    I have removed one rock completely and moved two rocks towards the back to break up the straight line of rocks at the front.

    The ? I would like to what it looks like if you remove it please.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  5. Orlandog7

    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    @keithgh I see what you mean. But that middle rock is my favorite feature. Being that this tank will be heavily planted with different types of plants (stems, carpet); and it is not meant to be a true mountain scape but more of a hybrid (ridgeline?); and the rocks are just scaffolding... I don't need so many rocks. So here is my new mock up... Thoughts please? And thanks a million for the feedback!


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  6. keithgh

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    There are several reasons why I suggested you move that rock back.
    1 It will give you more open planting area.
    2 If its towards the front you will have to have a taller plants other wise it will not be seen.
    3 The taller plants will also hide the smaller rock behind it.
    4 It will become more of a feature in your Rocky (no matter what you call it) Aquascape.
    5 Over all it balances all the rocks and gives you a far greater eye flow.

    My thoughts on your latest effort, to be perfectly honest it does nothing for me even when planted one quick look would be enough as my eye flow is all over the place, another way would be to say it looks like you have carefully selected and placed each rock to show it off rather than the over all balanced effect.

    Sorry if I am so harsh I always try to be honest and give constructive criticisms.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  7. lucasgg

    lucasgg Active Aquascaper

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    I'll just share my thoughts. Your hardscape has a well developed affect, it really pushes a cold air, high altitude effect atmosphere.

    You may consider a bright red focal plant behind a rock. Why? The natural shape and placement of the substrate and rock causes the "eye" to wander and roam between rocks. So just needs a visual anchor. Or, you could just redesign the hardscape. Your choice
     
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    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Not at all my freind. Let me process this feedback.
     
  9. Orlandog7

    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    I did see something different in it; just couldn't label it.

    Red plants are in my plan. Thanks.
     
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    Be sure to place them very carefully as they can have a large effect visually. As keith always says... What's the rush?


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  11. Orlandog7

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    Rock pushed back. If the main rocks look good, I can slowly improve smaller rocks in the future. Thanks for the constructive criticism guys; I won't be offended, please keep it coming!

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  12. lucasgg

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    Left middle rock is fighting for visual attention with the middle right rock


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    :( so how do i make it stop?
     
  14. lucasgg

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    Lower it, tilt it towards the middle right rock, or dissolve its demanding identity by grouping with similarly sized rocks farther away from the middle right rock


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    Oh Jesus, Mary and Joseph, all this wonderful feedback is making my head spin!

    "Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump, on the back of his head, behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming downstairs, but sometimes he feels that there really is another way, if only he could stop bumping for a moment and think of it."
     
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  16. keithgh

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    What have you done now you have four feature rocks just sitting there and now there is no interest at all.

    I have seen this happen too many times on ASW and other forums. Is changing for the sake of changing and often going backwards.

    Solution is very easily leave every thing alone for at least a week then go back at what has been posted with a fresh open mind.

    My last Aquascape took me months to get it exactly what I wanted its less than 2mt from this computer I had to leave it alone as my old brain just could not think clearly.

    If its in a location its hard to miss just cover it up.

    Trust me it works.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
  17. Orlandog7

    Orlandog7 Aspiring Aquascaper

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    Feeling frustrated!

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    I did not at the time the wife was looking over my shoulder when I was replying to your posting, her comment was very simple "what was that as it did nothing for me"

    A little hint in fact a massive tip please trust me and do as I say other wise you will get even more frustrated and give up.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     
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  19. Ed Villagracia

    Ed Villagracia Active Aquascaper

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    to me this stone arrangement looks okey. everything changes once you add your desired plants. just add more substrate to the back side.


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    this also looks okey to me. it gives a sense of depth. only fill in more stone, each one, to the left and to the right.
    it will also serve to stop substrate going to the front of your tank.
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  20. keithgh

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    Please do not change any thing with this Aquascape, except level the substrate at the front of the tank.

    Keith:cat::cat:
     

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