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100x40x50 planted discus tank

Discussion in 'Aquascaping Journals' started by Jurijs mit JS, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    Hi,
    please give some advise or critique on this hardscape
     

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  2. saintly

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    looks great jur4ik ;)

    what are the planting plans?
     
  3. aaronnorth

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    i can imagine this with a nice sand forground and lots of mosses/ ferns etc. Not much you can do to improve it IMO,
     
  4. Anti-Pjerrot

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    I dont like the rocks. I usually advice people to stay away from pepble/beach rocks since the surface and round shape IME is unsuited for a planted tank.

    The round structure and white/light colour tends to distract and stand out too much. You cant fasten plants on them either.

    Driftwood placement looks good.

    Amano once said "to hide your intentions with rocks" - meaning that you shoud hide the rocks using mosses, ferns or anubias ect. This was in context to using rocks as a structural hardscape, and not for iwagumi.

    I would chose either manten rocks or lava rocks, since both are discrete and have a good surface to tie ferns and mosses on to. Lava rocks are very good, but should be hidden with plants completely. Manten can be partly hidden with plants and looks good as compostional hardscape - but still not too catchy.
    Using manten rocks and small gravel in between can look quite good. Small lava rocks can be used only for attaching plants and used as movable moss/anubias/ferns and placed in order to have plants the right spots.
     
  5. Al G. Begone

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    Jur4ik, can't wait to see what direction you take this.
    Regarding the wood, I like the arrangement, good size, balance and texture.
    I tend to agree with Anti-Pjerrot on the rocks.
    For what will ultimately be a discuss tank I am working on, I am getting decent results with some dark colored rough surfaced petrified wood chunks as another alternative to the manten stones.
     
  6. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    hi,
    thanks for all comments.
    manten stones are too expensive for me, here in germany would have to pay 4€/kg
    i bought those "pepble/beach" stones from local garden center and only paid 8,50€ for 25kg.
    So this is in kinda way a compromise. I´m going to plant anubias between the stones, that should work as well to hide some of them, moss will be tied on some small flat stones near the bottom and on the driftwood.

    @saintly
    as for the plants i thought on lots of anubias between the stones, some moss tied to little flat stones and spotlike on the driftwood.
    ofcourse ferns on the driftwood, still unsure : java fern or bolbitis
    behind the stones mixture of a.helferi and e.tenellus
    somehow behind this plants on one side crypts on the other side echinodorus, to the background behind the driftwood valisneria or some stemplants like rotalas ..
    must check the availability here in the local stores or gonna order over the internet..

    now i will move to my lps and buy some pretty sand for the foreground, will post an update after that
     
  7. Al G. Begone

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    Cool. Sometimes you just have to work with what you can get.
    Budget is a big thing for all of us these days.
    Good luck and looking forward to seeing he progress.
    Do you already have or know what colors of Discuss you will put in this tank?
     
  8. Jurijs mit JS

    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    @ Al G. Begone
    there ase so many different and i love them all :bee:
    when i use red plants - i will take one with som red colors. when i take some blue discus i think i will use no red plants, or if the discus has both colors then i can use red plants or not. finaly must think about the community fauna .. :errr:

    Here final hardscape
     

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    Jurijs mit JS Admin Staff Member

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    one more shot from the top.
    Hope you like it
     

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  10. Chadly

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    Looks great. very effective elevation change from front to back. The rocks don't matter once they are covered right? The shape of the rock can vary per scape and leads to individuality. Broad foregrounds do well for depth and adds a specific personality to the tank. I like the setup, great job! I l
     
  11. Caima

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    That's a nice setup, just in the right direction :)>-
     
  12. Al G. Begone

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    Vallisneria gigantea might work really well along the back for this one, a great one for Discus.
     
  13. Jurijs mit JS

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    i liked it emersed more .. (slowly filling with water)
    see below :(
    (the extra stones on the driftwood are to prevent it floating .. )
     

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    i actualy think about the flora and I cant decide between
    • java fern (needle leave or narrow)
    • bolbitis
    any advice?

    this is how it actualy looks like, totaly filled with water :-\
     

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  15. Anti-Pjerrot

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    Both are good in the same tank.

    Use the bolbitis in the back, since it will get larger - and use the needle/narrow fern as focalpoints since they have a brighter green. Ive seen som pretty nice scapes form ADA using that combo.

    Im using it myself too ;)
     
  16. Jurijs mit JS

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    here is the plantlist, all together for 174€

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    Ok, here we go - day 3

    Plantlist i posted above was a "wishlist" and not everything was available at my local pet store.
    Here is the actual plantlist, plants i allready bought and planted:

    • Ludwigia palustris "red" 2x
    • Heteranthera zosterifolia 1x
    • Cryptocoryne wendtii "brown" 3x
    • Cryptocoryne wendtii "green" 3x
    • Nymphaea lotus "red" (zenkeri) 1x
    • Anubias barteri nana 3x
    • Microsorum pteropus 2x
    • Vallisneria spiralis "tiger" 1x
    • Hemianthus callitrichoides "cuba" 1x
    • Pogostemon helferi 4x
    • Echinodorus tenellus 1x
    • Echinodorus "red flame" 1x

    Here are some pictures of the plantig process
     

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    Some more pictures and detail shots
     

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    Again more pictures ..
     

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  20. saintly

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    youve been busy jur4ik :)

    it's looking rather good. do you plan to put more plants in the back?

    i'm liking the lilly/lotus

    happy christmas
     

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