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Old 03-19-2008, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Rooted aquatic plants grow best on a mineral soil such as a silt loam with low organic matter. Rooted aquatic plants require no N, P, S, or micronutrients in the water column when grown on a fertile substrate. Rooted aquatic plants grow best when the substrate is anaerobic ... in fact some roots will not produce root hairs UNLESS the substrate is anaerobic. In most cases, it appears that inorganic carbon limits growth of submerged aquatic plants... not because it is too low in concentration or because the uptake mechanisms are inefficient in aquatic plants (in fact both factors are comparable to terrestrial plants), but because the diffusivity of CO2 in water is about 10,000 times slower in water than in air.
"Aquatic plants undergo cyclical growth, even under constant conditions. This means that even under optimal conditions your plants will slow down and maybe even die back every once in a while.
"Rooted aquatic plants, unlike their terrestrial counterparts, can absorb mineral nutrients both from the water through their leaves and from the sediment through their roots. Unfortunately, it is often assumed that rooted aquatic plants can satisfy all of their mineral nutrient requirements from the water through leaf absorption. This is, however, incorrect. As early as 1905 a researcher by the name of Raymond H. Pond stated that, " ... a soil substratum is requisite for normal growth." and that, " [rooted aquatic plants] make a better growth on a good loam soil, just as many land plants do." Since then, the dramatic and consistently superior growth of plants rooted in soil compared to plants rooted in sand has been shown repeatedly for many different aquatic plant species from many different types of habitat.
"While the reasons for this superior growth are not completely understood, certain facts are clear. First, submerged soils are generally lacking in oxygen. This is of benefit to rooted aquatic plants since under anoxic conditions Fe, P and N are more readily available than under aerobic conditions. Second, nutrient concentrations are higher in a fertile soil than in the overlying water. Third, there is no competition with phytoplankton for available nutrients." - DH
We call these "fertile" substrates; however, all of our efforts amount to one thing and one thing only: conspiring to provide a safe, low level of nutrients for plants at the root zone. A fertile substrate simply means that we attempt to provide a greater proportion of nutrients to the roots.

Taken from: Substrates for Aquarium Plants
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very interesting Brian, Thanks for sharing this link.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I had to read this twice to full understand what it was saying. To summarize, it seems anaerobic (without oxygen) conditions are favorable in substrates for aquatic plants because it helps nutrient uptake through the roots.

If anaerobic soil conditions are ideal then would it not be better to have a thicker substrate to limit the supply of oxygen transfering from the top of the substrate and the watercolumn?

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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same question??
how do we make the substrate anaerobic?

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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To make a substrate aneorobic is needs to be made up of fine particulate matter that compacts as it ages. Fine sand does this up to a point but a better choice is mineralized soil mixed with clay. Make it reasonably thick limit the amount of mixing it gets from vacuming and stuff. a higher organic matter content will also help to make the substrate oxygen depleted but can leed to leaching and denitrfication.
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I was always been thinking the other way around, anaerobic substrate bad for plant. Any expert can comment?
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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An interesting item to discuss, IMO anaerobic areas in the substrate also allow that Fe2+ exists, plants needs to spend less energy to assimilate it than Fe3+ , also due to this some elements like nitrate and sulphate can be "digested". Toxic elements like CH4 and SH2 will be oxidated easily when they reach more oxygenated areas of substrate changes into sulphates and CO2, both esentials for plants.

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Old 11-04-2008, 11:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've just made some DIY-substrate with fert. in it!

It's made from 1 kg. clay (the red kind - with more Fe in it, than the blue kind of clay), 1 l. spagnum soil (dunno what the English term is) without fert., 8 gr. rexolin dissolved in 500 ml. water... After it's dry (I made it like small cubes 10x10x1) You can place it under your gravel... Works like a charm I'm surprised how effective it is!

Can't say if it's because it's more anaerob or what... But it made a difference for my plants!
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