Suggestions, Ideas - Hardscape

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-04-2008, 03:32 PM

Hey all

I'm playing around with some rocks and some driftwood for my 60x30x36 tank.
I builded a model of the tank in cardbord to get some more playing room and not to crush the nice optiwhite tank...

Some shots in slideshow:

I'm planning to do an open whitesand foreground, moss and ferns on driftwood, but not too heavy. I want to show a lot of the driftwood but mainly cover the center and the top of the rocks. Maybe some E. tenellus close the the rocks in groups, and some vallisneria nana in the back...

Any ideas or suggestions is welcome.
The hardscape is just a loose setup, just done by freehand. Watch the slideshow to see more photos.

CmLaracy · 05-04-2008, 07:31 PM

This is an absolutely stellar hardscape!! I love it!! CANT WAIT TO SEE IT PLANTED!

Pat7676 · 05-05-2008, 12:25 AM

I think this would look great also!!! I would move everything over a little bit more to one side so it won't be so centered.

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-05-2008, 07:50 AM

Pat - it dont feel it will be so centered when its all planted. The tank wont have much open space in the sides, so there is no real "center" of the tank. The main goal is to place the driftwood so it dont make any lines, openings or points in the center of itself.

Im gonna make some more setups, maybe buy some more driftwood, to have some more to play with. I think i would try some longer pieces, so it can be possible to break the surface. I kinda would like to let some moss or ferns grow out of the tank...

The way i feel now is that it is maybe too flat. It could be a little to discrete when its partly covered...

Pat7676 · 05-05-2008, 10:32 AM

Well i think it looks good. What kind of rocks are those?

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-05-2008, 11:31 AM

Its miniature landscape rocks

Who knows - they look like they have been formed by water current of some kind, since there are marks that look like it. They possible contain a small amount of calcium - but not that much. Other than that its very hard and dark grey.

Pat7676 · 05-05-2008, 11:46 AM

Well they are cool looking.

thief · 05-05-2008, 04:52 PM

Yes those are very nice rocks and from what I've heard pretty similar to the Seiryu stones too. Anyways the hard cape looks awesome and I think you could try and move some rocks outwards to make the sides look more fulfilled. Anyways can;t wait to see what it looks like in the tank itself.

Pat7676 · 05-05-2008, 05:18 PM

When are you going to put some water in this thing?

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-06-2008, 03:55 AM

Who knows... Im not the type who hurries... Last it took me 9 month to get my 250L started...

And im only on the third month of this project...

I need to soak and boil the roots too... If i have time, i could have everything done by next week... but its highly unlike me to start so soon

Pat7676 · 05-06-2008, 10:45 AM

Well i can't wait to see it i think this week be a good tank.

iam_koi · 05-06-2008, 11:58 AM

yep, patience is what i truly learned in this hobby. it takes planning and passion too. good luck.

Joe Faria · 05-08-2008, 06:50 PM

Hi,
Still open to suggestions?

Instead of vallis nana, I would try Cryptocoryne crispatula var. balansae and Cryptocoryne albida. Close to the rocks I would go for Cryptocoryne parva mixed with some eleocharis acicularis. Covering the center part I would add Fissidens fontanus or Riccardia chamaedryfolia.

It would make a very interesting scape and a nice challenge...

Regards,

Joe Faria

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-09-2008, 02:44 AM

Hi Joe thanks for the suggestion. I might change the vals - the crypts is a good idea.

I don't want eleocharis since its too fast growing and would spread too fast in the open foreground. The parva could work though and I have thougth of that as well.

I haven't decided on mosses yet, but some Fissidens would good in the center - thanks.

Joe Faria · 05-09-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pjerrot

Hi Joe thanks for the suggestion. I might change the vals - the crypts is a good idea.

I don't want eleocharis since its too fast growing and would spread too fast in the open foreground. The parva could work though and I have thougth of that as well.

I haven't decided on mosses yet, but some Fissidens would good in the center - thanks.

It was a pleasure, mate....

Regards,

Joe Faria

Joe Faria · 05-09-2008, 07:00 AM

BTW, have you thought on fauna yet?

Regards,

Joe Faria.

Anti-Pjerrot · 05-09-2008, 07:58 AM

I think just the regular... Otos, amanos, and a school of something. Maybe hyphessobrycon amandae (Ember tetra). They have a nice warm red color, that are not too dominant. I think they would fit into the contrast between the red-brown roots and light green moss.

05-04-2008, 03:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	Suggestions, Ideas - Hardscape Hey all I'm playing around with some rocks and some driftwood for my 60x30x36 tank. I builded a model of the tank in cardbord to get some more playing room and not to crush the nice optiwhite tank... Some shots in slideshow: I'm planning to do an open whitesand foreground, moss and ferns on driftwood, but not too heavy. I want to show a lot of the driftwood but mainly cover the center and the top of the rocks. Maybe some E. tenellus close the the rocks in groups, and some vallisneria nana in the back... Any ideas or suggestions is welcome. The hardscape is just a loose setup, just done by freehand. Watch the slideshow to see more photos. __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

05-04-2008, 07:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
CmLaracy Junior Aquascaper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Franklin Lakes, NJ Posts: 23	This is an absolutely stellar hardscape!! I love it!! CANT WAIT TO SEE IT PLANTED! Last edited by CmLaracy; 05-04-2008 at 08:14 PM.

05-05-2008, 07:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	Pat - it dont feel it will be so centered when its all planted. The tank wont have much open space in the sides, so there is no real "center" of the tank. The main goal is to place the driftwood so it dont make any lines, openings or points in the center of itself. Im gonna make some more setups, maybe buy some more driftwood, to have some more to play with. I think i would try some longer pieces, so it can be possible to break the surface. I kinda would like to let some moss or ferns grow out of the tank... The way i feel now is that it is maybe too flat. It could be a little to discrete when its partly covered... __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

05-05-2008, 11:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	Its miniature landscape rocks Who knows - they look like they have been formed by water current of some kind, since there are marks that look like it. They possible contain a small amount of calcium - but not that much. Other than that its very hard and dark grey. __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

05-06-2008, 03:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	Who knows... Im not the type who hurries... Last it took me 9 month to get my 250L started... And im only on the third month of this project... I need to soak and boil the roots too... If i have time, i could have everything done by next week... but its highly unlike me to start so soon __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

05-05-2008, 12:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	I think this would look great also!!! I would move everything over a little bit more to one side so it won't be so centered.

05-05-2008, 10:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Well i think it looks good. What kind of rocks are those?

05-05-2008, 11:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Well they are cool looking.

05-05-2008, 04:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
thief Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31	Yes those are very nice rocks and from what I've heard pretty similar to the Seiryu stones too. Anyways the hard cape looks awesome and I think you could try and move some rocks outwards to make the sides look more fulfilled. Anyways can;t wait to see what it looks like in the tank itself.

05-05-2008, 05:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	When are you going to put some water in this thing?

05-06-2008, 10:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Well i can't wait to see it i think this week be a good tank.

05-06-2008, 11:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
iam_koi Aspiring Aquascaper Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 94	yep, patience is what i truly learned in this hobby. it takes planning and passion too. good luck.

05-08-2008, 06:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Joe Faria Aspiring Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 66	Hi, Still open to suggestions? Instead of vallis nana, I would try Cryptocoryne crispatula var. balansae and Cryptocoryne albida. Close to the rocks I would go for Cryptocoryne parva mixed with some eleocharis acicularis. Covering the center part I would add Fissidens fontanus or Riccardia chamaedryfolia. It would make a very interesting scape and a nice challenge... Regards, Joe Faria

05-09-2008, 02:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	Hi Joe thanks for the suggestion. I might change the vals - the crypts is a good idea. I don't want eleocharis since its too fast growing and would spread too fast in the open foreground. The parva could work though and I have thougth of that as well. I haven't decided on mosses yet, but some Fissidens would good in the center - thanks. __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

05-09-2008, 07:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
Joe Faria Aspiring Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 66	BTW, have you thought on fauna yet? Regards, Joe Faria.

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05-09-2008, 07:58 AM	#17 (permalink)
Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 309	I think just the regular... Otos, amanos, and a school of something. Maybe hyphessobrycon amandae (Ember tetra). They have a nice warm red color, that are not too dominant. I think they would fit into the contrast between the red-brown roots and light green moss. __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

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