90G Iwagumi/Nature Aquarium Journal

Mr.Tang · 05-23-2009, 03:08 AM

Hi Guys,
After lots of research and quite a few purchases I now have my ADA inspired project underway.
Here are some pics for you an I will add more as the tank progresses.

The cabinet that I built today. It will be spray painted over a couple of weekends.

Milwaukee M957 Reg

Light - 2x150w MH and 4 x 54w T5HO

8000k MH Globes for the light

The rimless and braceless tank is being made 1200mm(L) x 600mm(D) x 500mm(H) in 12mm glass.

Will update as I go....

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-23-2009, 04:43 AM

cabinet looks good so far, will it have ADA style halfpipe holes for the filter?

Mr.Tang · 05-23-2009, 04:51 AM

Thanks Jur4ik,
Yes it will, that was a dry-build to check that all cuts were precise. The holes will be drilled tomorrow and bracing added. Then there will be many coats of primer and paint before the glue and screw. I will be painting it in Gunmetal Grey (of course) using an air compressor and spray gun. Might go a deep orange for the inside to break it up a tad - not sure yet though...

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-25-2009, 06:53 AM

great idea to paint inside in deep orange, or maybe papaya orange

do you have an idea how to build an ADA style cabinet for a bow front tank?

Mr.Tang · 05-25-2009, 07:20 AM

Actually, I do.... why do you want one??

Marc

Mr.Tang · 05-26-2009, 06:34 AM

Just took delivery of some glass from the US

Also found some more rocks (so I may change from the reddish ones) and some nice driftwood so it's all starting to come together. I'll update again soon...

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-26-2009, 07:22 AM

Yes

I have limited space for a new tank a bow front one would suit best. I want one that looks like Juwel Vision 260 - I cant order the Juwel one because of the build in light and filter. Cabinet might be ok, but I doesnt like the colors Juwel offer.

maybe you can help?

Cal Aqua glass stuff is great quality and expansive too. Why didnt you by the inline difusor ? I have one and it is great

Mr.Tang · 05-26-2009, 09:09 AM

Bowfront cabinets would be easy enough to make but to match the top and base to the tank is the hard part so you need to get tank made first...

Yeah the Cal Aqua glass is very nice and a LOT cheaper than ADA is over here even with freight charges. I liked the idea of having a diffuser in the tank so I can see it working and spin people out who come over and know nothing about planted tanks etc... may get the inline yet though

Jur4ik · 05-26-2009, 10:20 AM

will the doors also be bow like or simply the desk will be different from yours?
Think to realize this project in autumn - discus only tank

Mr.Tang · 05-26-2009, 07:16 PM

To make the doors bow require a LOT of extra effort and time so I'd reccomend buying one pre-made if that's what you are after...

I will be getting my ADA Aquasoil today along with some HC. My plan is to utilize the dry start method in two spare 3 foot tanks that I have. Then, when I receive my rimless tank and have the hardscape in place I will "transplant" the planted HC along with the Aquasoil. Can anyone see a problem with this??

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-27-2009, 04:17 AM

hc has ususaly only little roots so I´m afraid you wont be able to "transplant" it together with the hc. Maybe if you put something like a "fresh attitude foil" under a the aquasoil you will have better chance transplanting it.

Shadow · 05-27-2009, 05:02 AM

I agree with Jur4ik, it will be very challenging work to transplant HC. When will you be getting you rimless tank? It maybe easier to wait until then. Also HC need quite sometime before it start spreading. If your rimless thank come in within 2 weeks than I suggest to wait.

Mr.Tang · 05-27-2009, 05:46 AM

Thanks for the replies, I received the soil and HC today in the mail and used a bag of 9L ADA AS Powder in the 3 foot tank and planted the HC. I am looking at 2-4 weeks for the rimless and will probably be travelling at that time for work for a few weeks so the HC will have 5-7 weeks to settle and spread out. When the rimless comes in I will use the normal size AS to do the hardscape and then use something like the head of a shovel to get the soil and HC out in big patches/pieces before filling the tank.

I see what you are saying about the small roots as I just spent half an hour planting so I guess now I'll just have to see how it goes....

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-27-2009, 11:06 AM

have you done the trick with the foil?

Mr.Tang · 05-27-2009, 06:14 PM

I didn't have any fresh attitude foil but instead used some heavy clear plastic....

Marc

Jur4ik · 05-28-2009, 01:42 PM

well, please report about the sucses

Mr.Tang · 06-06-2009, 04:23 AM

Bit of an update... cabinet has been primed and first coat on. Color inside will change to something very much "out there"

more updates soon...

Marc

Jur4ik · 06-06-2009, 05:55 AM

looking good Marc,
Maybe you can post a guide how to buid such cabinet?
And can you advice me how to build an ADA style cabinet for a bow front tank ?

Shadow · 06-06-2009, 08:51 AM

looking good. just wondering why not laminate instead of spray paint?

Mr.Tang · 06-08-2009, 04:03 AM

Hey Jur4ik, I'd be happy to help with the design mate you just need to give me tank dimensions and radius of the bow... email me on marc@fishandpics.com

Cheers Shadow, I decided to paint before fully exploring the option of laminating well mainly because I know how to spray paint. I am not worried about waterproofing as it has had MANY coats of primer and paint.

A couple of pics...

Top coat on:

And the first coat on inside:

Marc

05-23-2009, 03:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	90G Iwagumi/Nature Aquarium Journal Hi Guys, After lots of research and quite a few purchases I now have my ADA inspired project underway. Here are some pics for you an I will add more as the tank progresses. The cabinet that I built today. It will be spray painted over a couple of weekends. Milwaukee M957 Reg Light - 2x150w MH and 4 x 54w T5HO 8000k MH Globes for the light The rimless and braceless tank is being made 1200mm(L) x 600mm(D) x 500mm(H) in 12mm glass. Will update as I go.... Marc

05-23-2009, 04:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	cabinet looks good so far, will it have ADA style halfpipe holes for the filter? __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-25-2009, 06:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	great idea to paint inside in deep orange, or maybe papaya orange do you have an idea how to build an ADA style cabinet for a bow front tank? __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-26-2009, 07:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	Yes I have limited space for a new tank a bow front one would suit best. I want one that looks like Juwel Vision 260 - I cant order the Juwel one because of the build in light and filter. Cabinet might be ok, but I doesnt like the colors Juwel offer. maybe you can help? Cal Aqua glass stuff is great quality and expansive too. Why didnt you by the inline difusor ? I have one and it is great __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	will the doors also be bow like or simply the desk will be different from yours? Think to realize this project in autumn - discus only tank __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-23-2009, 04:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Thanks Jur4ik, Yes it will, that was a dry-build to check that all cuts were precise. The holes will be drilled tomorrow and bracing added. Then there will be many coats of primer and paint before the glue and screw. I will be painting it in Gunmetal Grey (of course) using an air compressor and spray gun. Might go a deep orange for the inside to break it up a tad - not sure yet though... Marc

05-25-2009, 07:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Actually, I do.... why do you want one?? Marc

05-26-2009, 06:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Just took delivery of some glass from the US Also found some more rocks (so I may change from the reddish ones) and some nice driftwood so it's all starting to come together. I'll update again soon... Marc

05-26-2009, 09:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Bowfront cabinets would be easy enough to make but to match the top and base to the tank is the hard part so you need to get tank made first... Yeah the Cal Aqua glass is very nice and a LOT cheaper than ADA is over here even with freight charges. I liked the idea of having a diffuser in the tank so I can see it working and spin people out who come over and know nothing about planted tanks etc... may get the inline yet though

05-26-2009, 07:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	To make the doors bow require a LOT of extra effort and time so I'd reccomend buying one pre-made if that's what you are after... I will be getting my ADA Aquasoil today along with some HC. My plan is to utilize the dry start method in two spare 3 foot tanks that I have. Then, when I receive my rimless tank and have the hardscape in place I will "transplant" the planted HC along with the Aquasoil. Can anyone see a problem with this?? Marc

05-27-2009, 04:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	hc has ususaly only little roots so I´m afraid you wont be able to "transplant" it together with the hc. Maybe if you put something like a "fresh attitude foil" under a the aquasoil you will have better chance transplanting it. __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-27-2009, 05:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Shadow Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 908	I agree with Jur4ik, it will be very challenging work to transplant HC. When will you be getting you rimless tank? It maybe easier to wait until then. Also HC need quite sometime before it start spreading. If your rimless thank come in within 2 weeks than I suggest to wait. __________________ -Robert Aquascaping is a marriage between Art and Farming My Blog: http://aquatic-art.blogspot.com/

05-27-2009, 05:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Thanks for the replies, I received the soil and HC today in the mail and used a bag of 9L ADA AS Powder in the 3 foot tank and planted the HC. I am looking at 2-4 weeks for the rimless and will probably be travelling at that time for work for a few weeks so the HC will have 5-7 weeks to settle and spread out. When the rimless comes in I will use the normal size AS to do the hardscape and then use something like the head of a shovel to get the soil and HC out in big patches/pieces before filling the tank. I see what you are saying about the small roots as I just spent half an hour planting so I guess now I'll just have to see how it goes.... Marc

05-27-2009, 11:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	have you done the trick with the foil? __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

05-27-2009, 06:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	I didn't have any fresh attitude foil but instead used some heavy clear plastic.... Marc

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05-28-2009, 01:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	well, please report about the sucses __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

06-06-2009, 04:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Bit of an update... cabinet has been primed and first coat on. Color inside will change to something very much "out there" more updates soon... Marc

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Jur4ik Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 2,145	looking good Marc, Maybe you can post a guide how to buid such cabinet? And can you advice me how to build an ADA style cabinet for a bow front tank ? __________________ Regards, Jur4ik

06-06-2009, 08:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
Shadow Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 908	looking good. just wondering why not laminate instead of spray paint? __________________ -Robert Aquascaping is a marriage between Art and Farming My Blog: http://aquatic-art.blogspot.com/

06-08-2009, 04:03 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mr.Tang Junior Aquascaper Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 45	Hey Jur4ik, I'd be happy to help with the design mate you just need to give me tank dimensions and radius of the bow... email me on marc@fishandpics.com Cheers Shadow, I decided to paint before fully exploring the option of laminating well mainly because I know how to spray paint. I am not worried about waterproofing as it has had MANY coats of primer and paint. A couple of pics... Top coat on: And the first coat on inside: Marc

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