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Old 08-12-2008, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am about to receive this plant. It is still hard to come by in my country. Is there anyone here with experience in keeping this bladderwort?

Should i introduce it to high light, low light, new setup or old setup? Does it matter?

Would appreciate any help.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi.I keep my UG under high lighting,around 4 watts/gallon and I inject CO2 in my tank.the result is very good,they grow very fast.I would recommend that you use fertilizer tablets for better result.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hello,

about my experience with UG.

the tank setting was : 60L, 3*18W (T for the lighting, and co2
fertilization : flourish, flourish iron, flourish potassium, flourish excel

I directly start with hight light and no problem, it grow faster.

the only thing I advise you, is to cut regurlarly this plant, if not the basis must be deteriorate.

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Old 08-13-2008, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow thanks guys.

Hideki those pictures are amazing
I only hope to acheive such results. It will be planted in ADA amazonia is this ok? I use seachem ferts anyway, will excel be ok 2?

Its coming today i cant wait.

Thanks again for the help, as its rare here i dont wish to kill it
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think there is no problem with ADA amazonia, for myself it was planted in Seachem Flourite.

Are you only use Flourish excel ? In these case I think there will be a lack
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Hideki, how long before you get that much grow?
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Old 08-14-2008, 02:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hmmm, for giving an idea, my tank was planted on april the 24th :



on may the 25th, it was like this :



and on june the 13th :
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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awesome pics hideki - thanks for sharing
now i´m less afraif about this plant and think about using it for some scapes i will do in the future

how does this tank look today? any need to trim gramifolia?
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yes you need to trim UG, if not it will be like this :



(after trimming, but I had wait too many time)
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
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what happened? im scared ^^

If i look your above pictures, your UG looks like 1 peace carpet - so how to trim it?

or just cut all the leaves down ?

which kind of substrate do you use for UG ? i think UG needs AS powder, not?
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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what happen? it is like being bleach.
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i suppose a leak of light .. plants under stones look like this - yellow and so
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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excuse me about my late answer, I was in holliday ^^

about the UG, after a while it tends to rise (the leaves up on each other) and basis had a lack of light, so you need to trim the leaves, even if it's good for eyes
As I waited too long, the base was completely white by lack of light!

I reassure you, after a while it's start again, but it's really long!


For UG I used Flourite red (seachem) and no problem!


ps : excuse my bad english !
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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as i supposed
please dont be shy because of your english - this is an international forum and i can understand you very well

UG:
IF i once have a full gree UG carpet in my tank - the only thing to keep it "green" is to trim it ?!
do i have to create some substrate spots betwek UG?
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hello guys,

Some years ago, I bought a pot of UG, I placed in a non-CO2 tank and after few months it disappeared, ans start to appear another strange plant that quickly I IDed as Utricularia genus....

Looks like this...



And finally covered my tank under the moss and other plants...



Does anyone see this morphing in his tank?
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Old 08-23-2008, 09:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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We have a similar species called Utricularia gibba in Australia. It's a pain when it hitches a ride with some plants and can easily take over a tank.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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That Utricularia graminifolia is awesome! Would it do alright under 2.5 wpg?
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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That Utricularia graminifolia is awesome! Would it do alright under 2.5 wpg?
I'm trying it at 0,375 w/l (1,5 W/gal) and after a month it has not yet started to grow.
It's not yellowing nor bad, just stopped as it was when planted...
In latest week it seems has become just a little more higher (I think it's due to an higher CO2 rate of my DIY yeast CO2 system)...

I'm waiting
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hi,

I'm new to these forums but I've been growing this plant for a while and thought I'd chime in and maybe offer a difference perspective on this little one. My main growing area is in a 18" cube paludarium, the UG is about 8" from 4 T5HO lights and is currently growing happily in a little waterfallish area in the attached photo. There is no substate in this little ledge, its just sitting on the driftwood, I've been trimming it about once a month to keep it out of the water. The photo is a month or two old and the UG is now working its way up the driftwood/tubes. I'm using no fertizilers or any additives other than the frozen food the killi's get.

One a side note, the silly killifish love to jump up into the stuff (half out of the water) to spawn then jump back out. Really odd too see. Anytime the water level gets high enough they go right in and do there thing.

I have UG growing mostly emersed, few submerged, some in mud, some in sphagnum moss, some in rockwool, some in aquasoil, some on driftwood, and some I'm probably forgeting about. The rockwool or driftwood seem to do better for me, but ymmv. As for light I've got some under the 4 T5HO lights, all the way down to 10" from a single 14W compact flourscent bulb. All are growing fine, the leaves seem greener under higher light, atleast from my experiences. Lower light is giving me yellow/green leaves. Leaf size is also variable from area to area, while staying the same within one growing area. I haven't found a connection as to the reason for the difference. All these plants came from the same initial cutting so I'm pretty sure its all the same plant.

I do not use CO2 or any fertiziler besides fishy food on any of the UG and use only RO water. I've based this off the carnivorous plants forums recommendations. Alot of carnivorous plants will rapidly die off with normal aquatic fertiziler levels, but people here seem to be growing well with them.

From my experiences this plant likes to sulk when moved, its been 2-4 weeks after every cutting I've taken to show any growth. Its a small sample size of bout 20ish cutting but its been 100% consistant. It sits there doing nothing for a few weeks then takes off one day.

I have yet to have this plant flower. Someday, someday.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Will this plant grow over rocks as well as driftwood? Would it be easier to bury the rocks to lift the Aquasoil up?
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