The Iwagumi Style

John N. · 04-10-2008, 12:48 PM

Please discuss and comment on Roy Deki's The Iwagumi Style here.

-John N.

Pat7676 · 04-10-2008, 06:36 PM

I love these kinds of tanks i really like how they always to get everything to fit so perfect around the rocks.

dougz · 04-11-2008, 06:36 PM

Man, this aquascape, has me MTS'ing already!!

I think I'll try something like this, only with Riccia, tennelus or Java Moss on top of the rock rather than B. Japonica, as I heard Bj is really hard to care for, and doesn't last long..

Anyone else that has B. japonica in their tank care to comment on this?

Not a big glosso fan, I don't think..

Prefer mini swords like E. tennelus or S. pusilla..

John is there a way we could get a full frontal of this tank, to take in the whole picture?

Pat7676 · 04-11-2008, 06:53 PM

I think there is a full frontal in the article.

dougz · 04-11-2008, 07:04 PM

Well, there is, but it's at a 45 degree angle...

Not really a full frontal..

Pat7676 · 04-11-2008, 07:11 PM

Oh sorry

John N. · 04-12-2008, 04:08 AM

Here you go Doug. It's a fantastic scape.

"Passage Beyond" by Roy Deki

-John N.

dougz · 04-12-2008, 04:20 AM

Thanks John..

Yes, quite the work of art..

It's given me quite a few ideas for my own tank..

If I ever do a 2nd, I'll try to do a straight-up Iwagumi style tank..

But for my first I'll be focused more on the fish than the landscape (corys, dwarf gourami, cardinals), and will have to settle for some sort of hybrid (community tank/restful aquascape)..

We'll see, I guess..

Thanks again for getting us this!

I love the rock..

So much character!

Where are the fish, I wonder..

That's the missing element that would make this aquascape complete..

Roy Deki · 04-12-2008, 11:31 AM

I had wild green neons in this tank and all they did was hide. This tank did not "score" well in competition for several reasons.

1. No fish, lacked the sense of movement.
2. Although I used an odd number of rocks, i believe there was a total of nine rocks, I failed to make it appear to have a odd number of stones.
There are actually 5 different stones used to appear as one in the back left.

JDowns · 04-12-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Deki

I had wild green neons in this tank and all they did was hide. This tank did not "score" well in competition for several reasons.

1. No fish, lacked the sense of movement.
2. Although I used an odd number of rocks, i believe there was a total of nine rocks, I failed to make it appear to have a odd number of stones.
There are actually 5 different stones used to appear as one in the back left.

See this is why I stay away from professional competitions. The judges can't even count to ten.

dougz · 04-12-2008, 02:26 PM

It's a beautiful sight, Roy!

Never doubt it!

Care to comment on the B. japonica?

IS it hard to keep alive for an extended period in a tank?

Pat7676 · 04-12-2008, 02:32 PM

Does Japonica usually not survive long?

JDowns · 04-12-2008, 02:38 PM

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ils.php?id=123

The experiences I've had with it are pretty much identical to that description.
In my tank its a weed.

dougz · 04-12-2008, 03:01 PM

That's what I read in Hiscock's Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants..

"Even in the best conditions this plant may have a limited lifespan in the aquarium. For optimum care, provide very bright lighting and a soft water environment"

And he rates it 3-4, 4 being the the most difficult plant to care for.

So I'd be interested in hearing what other people who have had it in their tanks think..

JDowns · 04-12-2008, 03:39 PM

I would be interested also. I believe a display tank Roy has has some blyxa in it that has to be at least a year old.

I don't understand the limited lifespan though?

Its a stem plant. I pull and seperate new stems constantly so it doesn't get obnoxiously bushy. The new stems get planted and soon new stems are forming off of the old one.

Pat7676 · 04-12-2008, 03:58 PM

I am interested also in know how the survival on this plant.

Anti-Pjerrot · 04-12-2008, 04:31 PM

I had it for some time at high light, high CO2, EI ferts and soft water.

It looked good for some time ~ 1½month. Then suddently melted away... Newer quite found out why. The closest guess was that my SAE eate them.

The guy I got it from grew his with vigusly growth.

dougz · 04-13-2008, 03:43 PM

Hmm..

Interesting..

Well, I try it in my tank, I think, and I'll let you all know how it does..

waterfaller1 · 04-14-2008, 08:20 AM

My results so far have been fair.The original plants have all just about melted away, but it has grown lots of new plantlets which look healthy. I do not use CO2.

Pat7676 · 04-14-2008, 02:19 PM

Good to know i will also let everyone know how these plants do for me i got in a good bit today.

04-10-2008, 12:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
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04-12-2008, 11:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Roy Deki Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chandler AZ Posts: 481	I had wild green neons in this tank and all they did was hide. This tank did not "score" well in competition for several reasons. 1. No fish, lacked the sense of movement. 2. Although I used an odd number of rocks, i believe there was a total of nine rocks, I failed to make it appear to have a odd number of stones. There are actually 5 different stones used to appear as one in the back left. __________________ www.aape.naturalaquariums.com

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Anti-Pjerrot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 383	I had it for some time at high light, high CO2, EI ferts and soft water. It looked good for some time ~ 1½month. Then suddently melted away... Newer quite found out why. The closest guess was that my SAE eate them. The guy I got it from grew his with vigusly growth. __________________ Scape it - Kristoffer

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04-10-2008, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	I love these kinds of tanks i really like how they always to get everything to fit so perfect around the rocks.

04-11-2008, 06:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	Man, this aquascape, has me MTS'ing already!! I think I'll try something like this, only with Riccia, tennelus or Java Moss on top of the rock rather than B. Japonica, as I heard Bj is really hard to care for, and doesn't last long.. Anyone else that has B. japonica in their tank care to comment on this? Not a big glosso fan, I don't think.. Prefer mini swords like E. tennelus or S. pusilla.. John is there a way we could get a full frontal of this tank, to take in the whole picture?

04-11-2008, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	I think there is a full frontal in the article.

04-11-2008, 07:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	Well, there is, but it's at a 45 degree angle... Not really a full frontal..

04-11-2008, 07:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Oh sorry

04-12-2008, 04:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	Thanks John.. Yes, quite the work of art.. It's given me quite a few ideas for my own tank.. If I ever do a 2nd, I'll try to do a straight-up Iwagumi style tank.. But for my first I'll be focused more on the fish than the landscape (corys, dwarf gourami, cardinals), and will have to settle for some sort of hybrid (community tank/restful aquascape).. We'll see, I guess.. Thanks again for getting us this! I love the rock.. So much character! Where are the fish, I wonder.. That's the missing element that would make this aquascape complete..

04-12-2008, 02:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	It's a beautiful sight, Roy! Never doubt it! Care to comment on the B. japonica? IS it hard to keep alive for an extended period in a tank?

04-12-2008, 02:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Does Japonica usually not survive long?

04-12-2008, 02:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
JDowns Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 148	http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ils.php?id=123 The experiences I've had with it are pretty much identical to that description. In my tank its a weed.

04-12-2008, 03:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	That's what I read in Hiscock's Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants.. "Even in the best conditions this plant may have a limited lifespan in the aquarium. For optimum care, provide very bright lighting and a soft water environment" And he rates it 3-4, 4 being the the most difficult plant to care for. So I'd be interested in hearing what other people who have had it in their tanks think..

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04-12-2008, 03:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
JDowns Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 148	I would be interested also. I believe a display tank Roy has has some blyxa in it that has to be at least a year old. I don't understand the limited lifespan though? Its a stem plant. I pull and seperate new stems constantly so it doesn't get obnoxiously bushy. The new stems get planted and soon new stems are forming off of the old one.

04-12-2008, 03:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	I am interested also in know how the survival on this plant.

04-13-2008, 03:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
dougz Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mackenzie, BC Posts: 281	Hmm.. Interesting.. Well, I try it in my tank, I think, and I'll let you all know how it does..

04-14-2008, 08:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
waterfaller1 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 307	My results so far have been fair.The original plants have all just about melted away, but it has grown lots of new plantlets which look healthy. I do not use CO2.

04-14-2008, 02:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
Pat7676 Senior Aquascaper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jackson, Mississippi Posts: 753	Good to know i will also let everyone know how these plants do for me i got in a good bit today.